[RockinRight]

The difference though is that it’s a hearts and minds issue.

Aside from a few John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson types, NOBODY in the US believes that killing another human being OUT OF THE WOMB in cold blood is anything but murder and nobody believes it’s “OK” to do so (death penalty and self-defense aside.)

Whereas, with abortion, about half the population doesn’t even believe it’s the taking of a human life. While that is wrong, it’s not the same.

[fetal heart beats by 21st day]

Aside from a few John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson types, NOBODY in the US believes that killing another human being OUT OF THE WOMB in cold blood is anything but murder and nobody believes it’s “OK” to do so (death penalty and self-defense aside.) Really? Try Peter Singer and the brillaint DNA discover, Watson. There are lots of open proponents of killing human beings outside the womb, and looking the other way while others kill them in the womb.

[50mm]

Aside from a few John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson types, NOBODY in the US believes that killing another human being OUT OF THE WOMB in cold blood is anything but murder and nobody believes it’s “OK” to do so (death penalty and self-defense aside.)

Better read Semper's post 50 in response to my post 46. It would appear that Semper is okay with post-birth abortion or didn't understand my question. I hope it's the latter, but fear it's the former.

[EternalVigilance]

What they believe is irrelevant. If they believed that jumping eoff eighty foot cliffs would have no consequences, it wouldn’t change the fact that jumping off eighty foot cliffs does have consequences.

Only those with enough sense to understand such basic facts of life are fit to govern anything.

Those who misunderstand such simple concepts aren’t even fit to govern themselves.