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Vanity | Nov 13, 2007 | Semper

Posted on 11/13/2007 5:34:21 PM PST by Semper

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To: WriteOn
Semper Satan

To call someone Satan is a serious matter. I posted a message allowing that I could be persuaded to change my views. How does your post do that?

21 posted on 11/13/2007 6:20:07 PM PST by Semper
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To: Semper

Your article didn’t say anything about the election.

That’s a different matter, and so far as I know, few if any abortions are performed in the oval office. As a campaign issue it is simply not relevant.

Someday, maybe soon, roe will inevitably be overturned. Then it will be a fierce issue at the state level. But its relevance at the Presidential level is already pretty much over. Sure, one more judge might be nice, but we probably don’t even need that.


22 posted on 11/13/2007 6:20:20 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Semper

Psychotic departure from reality. The “principles of freedom and God’s omnipotence” called forth in support of killing one’s unborn child. Remarkable. I’m sure that’s just what the Founders had in mind. Sheesh.


23 posted on 11/13/2007 6:21:19 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Semper
Not so. It is supporting politicians who will let you make your own moral decisions.

I agree wholeheartedly.

24 posted on 11/13/2007 6:21:25 PM PST by Drew68
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To: 50mm
Post-birth abortion has already been suggested:

I can think of several individuals for whom a "retroactive abortion" would have made the world a better place.

25 posted on 11/13/2007 6:23:31 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Semper
what I would really like to see is the republican party not shoot itself by the divisive activity of moral superiority

What you would really like to see is abortionists running rampant, funded with tax dollar no doubt. Stop the BS, Heinrich.

26 posted on 11/13/2007 6:24:22 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Semper
it might be a blessing to be aborted. Do you claim to have the knowledege that this is not so?

Yes. I do.

27 posted on 11/13/2007 6:24:44 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Drew68
I can think of several individuals for whom a "retroactive abortion" would have made the world a better place.

Agree, but that doesn't make it right. Who are we as mere humans to decide which people have worth and which don't. Isn't that playing God?

28 posted on 11/13/2007 6:27:27 PM PST by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: Semper
Nuf ced: The Gospel of Life
29 posted on 11/13/2007 6:28:09 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Semper

Knowing that the vast majority of “fetii” would survive outside the responsibilitress’ womb after 7 months of gestation, would you place any limits on abortion? If so what are those limits?


30 posted on 11/13/2007 6:36:00 PM PST by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: Semper

There’s no fine line at all. There is a bright clear line.

My child is my responsibility. My dog is my property.

I can shoot my dog.


31 posted on 11/13/2007 6:37:32 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
If an arbitrary line is to be drawn for “human-ness” it would be better to make it about one year after birth.

I don't agree with that premise. There is only one very clear point in human development and that is birth. All other transitions are indeed arbitrary.

32 posted on 11/13/2007 6:57:05 PM PST by Semper
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Are you for the planned murder of the most helpless?

No. And using that language is what helps those who would take your freedom and degrade what this country was founded upon.

33 posted on 11/13/2007 7:00:17 PM PST by Semper
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To: Ramius

Have you not heard of Michael Vick?


34 posted on 11/13/2007 7:01:25 PM PST by Semper
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To: 50mm
would you place any limits on abortion? If so what are those limits?

If it were my responsibility, I would place huge limits on abortion. But that is not my responsibility, I am not the one carrying a potential human. I am not the one who must decide what is best for that potential human being and for the family (or lack thereof) into which it emerges.

In China the government decides for families how many children they can have - which now happens to be one. Matters of procreation are not the business of government.

36 posted on 11/13/2007 7:12:29 PM PST by Semper
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To: Semper

If he had merely shot his dog he wouldn’t be in trouble.


37 posted on 11/13/2007 7:16:56 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: sandyeggo
Aren’t you glad your mom didn’t have an abortion when she was pregnant with you?

I don't think that my mother's decision was what determined my existence - it was God's decision through her. She had two natural abortions before I was born (miscarriages) but if I had not been born from her, if it was God's will that I be born, it would have happened in other circumstances. Human beings are not more powerful than God.

38 posted on 11/13/2007 7:18:15 PM PST by Semper
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To: Semper
"..There is only one very clear point in human development and that is birth. All other transitions are indeed arbitrary..."

I see..

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Kill

Do not kill

Sorry, FRiend. I'm having trouble making sense of this.

40 posted on 11/13/2007 7:19:42 PM PST by labette
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