[Iscool]

Rule two is "that Catholics believe that grace can not be had without faith in Jesus Christ...", ackonowledging that Catholics already know Christ and to know Christ and not have faith in Him is something different from not knowing of Christ at all.

I've seen on countless threads that babies receive this 'grace' at baptism...They certainly do not have faith in Jesus Christ...

[armydoc]

I've seen on countless threads that babies receive this 'grace' at baptism...They certainly do not have faith in Jesus Christ...

Not so sure about that, Iscool (that infants can't have faith). What about the in-utero John the Baptist?

[jwalsh07]

I've seen on countless threads that babies receive this 'grace' at baptism...They certainly do not have faith in Jesus Christ...

Babies do not know Christ though Christ knows them. So does God grant salvation to babies who have died before accepting Jesus Christ as their saviour?