Posted on 11/10/2007 10:10:35 AM PST by Between the Lines
I forgot to add orthodox to the liturgical Christians. Sorry!
**While Orthodox, Catholic and Lutheran make up the largest part of “Liturgical Christians,” they are also part of the makeup of other types of Christians as well.**
Agree with you here. Maybe this is part of why I thought the descriptions to be so wacky.
Great job. Looks like you had a similar assessment to mine.
**Did anybody read the article?**
It would be much easier to do so if the entire article were posted. Most of these sites do NOT object to having their articles posted. (I guess it’s one of my pet peeves.) Even on the news forum.
I don’t know why people want to avoid Him either. What has always been interesting to me is that missionaries have often reported back that the people they were going to (usually classed as primitive) didn’t really have an issue about whether God existed. These guys knew about spirits and about paying protection to local witch doctors and such who had demonic power and abilities. They were very interested in knowing about God, the most powerful spirit, and what they could do to get right with Him.
It’s usually in the ‘intellectual’ countries where people have the luxury of being atheists. They won’t believe in the evidence for God existing, or Jesus Christ’s resurrection, but they will believe in the fairy tale that is evolution and no moral absolutes.
I don’t know how you get up in the morning and function if you don’t have God. I have hard days even with God’s help.
Thanks, Salvation. I don’t often contact you, but I appreciate all that you do in your postings. I am having a personally difficult time right now, a family member is struggling greatly with a question of conscience and faith. Pray for us, pleae.
V’s wife.
I will very definitely pray for you and for your family. You might check the Imitation of Christ threads for some inspiration.
I think you read my post a little too fast.
The point I was trying to make is that these primitive peoples, many of them hungered for the Gospel. They wanted to know the big spirit in charge, they knew they were sinners in their hearts, they knew they couldn’t fix it themselves, and so many of them rejoiced when they were told about the Gospel. These guys didn’t need convincing they had broken the law and transgressed ‘God’ - they were at a point where they were ready to hear the Gospel. There have even been former witch doctors who gave up their demonic powers and turned their lives over to God.
I was trying to point out that it was ironic that these primitive peoples didn’t need convincing about evil spirits, God, and what was going to happen to them after death. It was the higher intellectual types that rationalized God away as being an antiquated fable.
I also don’t think it’s a waste of time to do missionary work of spreading the Gospel. If you say it is important to obey God, He did give us the charge of preaching the Gospel to every creature. Whether they respond isn’t the issue. Like you said, it is because we want to obey Him. Right?
You said it, padre!
Some of the worst people I’ve met have called themselves Christians and claim to be SAVED.
They do that while professing spiritual superiority over others.
This thread reeks of it.
Perhaps, but ;et show some love for our fellow Christians
66 chapter 1200 or so versus...
James Smith also identifies himself as a Christian. He attended church as a child, but his attendance was minimal as a young adult. He believes in God, occasionally attends Redeemer Presbyterian in Manhattan when his time-consuming job in the finance district allows, but he does not often participate in other activities to further his spiritual life. He has a Bible but rarely opens it; what leisure time he has he spends with friends, most of whom are of different faiths, and he does not necessarily believe that his God is any different from the one his Muslim friend worships.
"I don't think that God would be a God who would shut others out of heaven because they don't use the word 'Christian' to describe themselves," he says.
The United States is described in mainstream media as largely Christian (between 70 and 80 percent, depending on the study, identify themselves as "Christian"), and compared to the rest of the world, this is certainly the case. However, not all within this vast group of Christians are alike.
To understand the range and differences among American Christians, Christianity Today International (publisher of Leadership) recently partnered with Zondervan Publishers to commission Knowledge Networks to conduct attitudinal and behavioral research of U.S. Christians. In September 2006, more than 1,000 self-identified Christians 18 years of age and older were surveyed on their religious beliefs and practices. The results reveal a number of significant differences, illustrated by the examples of Hua and Smith. In fact, portraits of five distinct segments emerged from the study. We have named them Active, Professing, Liturgical, Private, and Cultural Christians.
Each group represents about one-fifth of those identifying themselves as Christian, with Active Christians (such as Hua) most likely to have a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that affects their beliefs and inspires an active church life; Cultural Christians (such as Smith) are least likely to align their beliefs or practices with biblical teachings, or attend church. Between the two is a range of beliefs, commitment levels, and public practice of the faith.
Leadership discussed the survey results with leading pastors and religious experts to ascertain the ramifications for church leaders. Three critical issues emerged:
Faith Yes, Church Maybe
The survey shows that for nearly half of Christians, involvement in a local church body is a minimal part of their daily lives (see chart 1).
"A growing element of the Christian population is disappointed with or frustrated by the local church," says D. Michael Lindsay, assistant professor of sociology at Rice University and former consultant with the Gallup Institute. In part, this trend can be attributed to factors within local church bodies themselves, such as lack of strong leadership or teaching.
Given that 60 percent of all Christians worship in churches with fewer than 300 people (see chart 2), most Christians are in congregations that continually struggle with resource issues. Previous generations were accustomed to that, and today's worshipers have higher expectations.
"These days, people can get good teaching, wonderful music, and excellent writing, whether through iPods, TV, or online," says Wilkerson. "They learn to shop around and pick and choose. Then they expect the same high quality in their local church. A generation ago, the average person learned to accept his home pastor and was faithful to his local church. But now, people's appetites for excellence have been heightened."
As pastor of a large church himself, Wilkerson acknowledges "we probably end up perpetuating that kind of appetite by trying to be as high-quality as what we find out there. The temptation of larger churches is to compete and to be as good as the others are."
Even for those Private and Cultural Christians who do not typically consume Christian media, access to it can still play a significant role in their spiritual development in ways that may not be reflected in the survey.
"Private and Cultural Christians might not use traditional Christian media, but I would bet they disproportionately watch [Lakewood Church pastor] Joel Osteen on cable," says Lindsay. Cultural Christians are the group that spends the most time watching TV and using the Internet.
Spiritual growth, then, may be occurring for many of today's Christians in non-traditional ways. Instead of attending church on Sunday mornings, many opt for personal, individual ways to stretch themselves spiritually.
"Emerging generations may not see themselves as churched, but neither do they see themselves as any less committed," says Joel Hunter, senior pastor of Northland Church in Longwood, Florida. "The traditional programming that churches do is becoming less essential to work out faith for many people."
Personal or Media Relationships?
The danger, however, is that the multimedia availability of religious content helps people become spiritual do-it-yourselfers. As a result, they lack an important aspect of faith development: interaction with other Christians in community. This privatizing of Christian faith fits with the American spirit of individualism, but it may not produce Christians with enduring and long-term spiritual vitality.
"It's fine to use religious media as an addition if you are part of a local Christian community," says Lindsay. "It becomes problematic if you have no binding commitment to a local community and you become a Lone Ranger Christian. Before long your faith becomes something you put on and off like a jacket."
Instead of trying to win underchurched people back to a traditional church context, leaders say the approach to bringing Private, Cultural, and non-Christians into the church is relational and outward-looking rather than programmatic and inward-focused. Lindsay notes many Christians who are not involved in traditional churches are "much, much more interested in personal connection. The ways in which they nourish their faith are through home churches or one-on-one Bible study or non-church related small groups."
"The old paradigm of evangelism was a transactional sharing of the gospel," says Ken Fong, senior pastor of Evergreen Baptist Church of Los Angeles. "I would try to get people to intellectually agree with me. But the new paradigm is different, an approach in which I invite you to walk alongside me, examine my life, and see evidence of the truth, and hopefully there will be something compelling that you see. It's a no-strings-attached invitation to enter my life as I follow Jesus."
Another necessary shift is recognizing that the old metrics of success may no longer apply. Wilkerson says, "We need to spend the next ten years investing in the life of our surrounding community and finding ways to regain a hearing for the gospel. Instead of going to the nursing home and holding a church service, we're just going to go and love and serve people for years and years, until the staff and residents ask, 'Why do they care so much?' This won't result in 150 decisions for Christ in a year. You might not see results for five or ten years."
Churches that do engage their local communities may discover that what they gain surpasses what they give. At Evergreen Baptist Church-LA, the demographics of the city of Rosemead, where the church is located—Asian, Hispanic, and lower-income—differ from the congregation itself—predominantly Asian and largely middle- and upper-middle class. Fong strives to encourage the right attitude as his church engages the surrounding community.
"As we reach out to kids in the neighborhood, we tell our congregation that we don't just do this to be good Christians. We tell them that maybe these poor kids know something more than we do about knowing God, more so than us middle-class snobs," he says. "It's not enough to reach out because we think it's the right thing to do. That is paternalistic. We need to see that there is something that different people with different perspectives can show us that we're missing."
Hunter believes the way the church responds to the forces affecting today's Christians and non-Christians will have significant ramifications. "As the traditional church has a rougher and rougher time, our challenge will become a motivational factor: either we build relationships with people in our communities, or we will die."
New Need for Apologetics
The survey indicated that self-identified Christians hold a wide range of theological and doctrinal beliefs. For many, Private and Cultural Christians in particular, Bible-reading is minimally important (see chart 3). Thus, as churches encourage their congregants to engage with the surrounding communities and build relational bridges with people, they must simultaneously equip these Christians to handle the questions and attitudes they may encounter, both with non-Christians as well as with other Christians who hold different beliefs.
But the current level of biblical and theological teaching in the church may not be meeting the challenge of preparing people in the pews to explain the power and significance of the Scriptures to those who rarely read them. "I do think there is decline and unbelievable degrees of biblical illiteracy that we haven't seen in previous generations, among all five of these categories of Christians," says Lindsay. "People used to know their Bible, but now they can go week-in and week-out and not even know the order of the books. Many churches feed their congregants a steady diet of messages that do not require intellectual engagement or an understanding of the biblical narrative. And that is a huge problem."
Hunter says, "We need to preach with apologetics in mind, with a rational explanation and defense of the Christian faith in mind, so that the people who are in the church really know how to phrase that to people who aren't in the church. We should say, 'You need to be able to tell other people what I'm telling you.'"
During one recent Easter Sunday, Grace Chapel focused on the disciple Thomas and his doubts about Jesus after the resurrection. Wilkerson told his own story of spiritual darkness and doubt, then planned a service the following Sunday entitled "Doubters Anonymous."
Wilkerson asked people to e-mail their questions to the church, and he had three pastors up front to handle the questions. Those who attended were also able to text message questions or turn them in on a card.
Ultimately, though, Northland's Hunter feels that the way to counter biblical illiteracy is to equip Active Christians as teachers, ambassadors, and apologists. "We have to go out and be with those who do not know or understand. People will always default to what they know, and if they believe general statements such as 'We're all God's children' or 'Jesus was just a representative of God,' then that is all they will know. Unless they have a relationship with someone who can explain theological doctrines of atonement or of original sin, they will always just believe their own general concepts."
What About Jesus?
In addition to these findings about the church, we found a most defining dichotomy over the Jesus question: Active and Professing Christians said "accepting Christ as Savior and Lord" is the key to being a Christian (almost 9 in 10), while Liturgical, Private, and Cultural Christians favored more generally "believing in God" as the main element in being a Christian. So, for a vast number of people who consider themselves Christian, Christ is not the central figure of their faith.
Leith Anderson, senior pastor of Wooddale Church in Eden Prairie, Minnesota, believes that the high value placed on tolerance in this country is partly to blame. "'God' as a term is transferable amongst different religious sects, but 'Christ' is not. It seems intolerant. What we need to do is reintroduce people to Jesus, his story, his life and his teachings. Not by forcing people to agree with us, but by giving them adequate examples and reasons to believe in Christ."
Hunter agrees that trying to provide intellectual arguments for the Christian faith will only go so far. "Christianity is about Christ, and it is about that personal relationship. We have to not focus on explaining Pauline theology, but on the person and ministry of Christ. We have to be people who live out the life of Christ. People aren't generally interested in theological teaching. But everyone has a heart for the one who had a heart for us."
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Active Christians 19% - Believe salvation comes through Jesus Christ
- Committed churchgoers
- Bible readers
- Accept leadership positions
- Invest in personal faith development through the church
- Feel obligated to share faith; 79% do so.
Professing Christians 20% - Believe salvation comes through Jesus Christ
- Focus on personal relationship with God and Jesus
- Similar beliefs to Active Christians, different actions
- Less involved in church, both attending and serving
- Less commitment to Bible reading or sharing faith
Liturgical Christians 16% - Predominantly Catholic and Lutheran
- Regular churchgoers
- High level of spiritual activity, mostly expressed by serving in church and/or community
- Recognize authority of the church
Private Christians 24% - Largest and youngest segment
- Believe in God and doing good things
- Own a Bible, but don't read it
- Spiritual interest, but not within church context
- Only about a third attend church at all
- Almost none are church leaders
Cultural Christians 21% - Little outward religious behavior or attitudes
- God aware, but little personal involvement with God
- Do not view Jesus as essential to salvation
- Affirm many ways to God
- Favor universality theology
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I’ve read of the visitation with John leaping for joy as ‘when the Voice met the Word’.
Excellent article.
I have forwarded to several folks.
I am a Christian and have wondered what has changed my whole way of thinking and lack of desire to attend church over the past few years. Several friends share my same thoughts in that we much more prefer small group Bible study and meaningful service in our own communities (or region). We don’t like throwing money into a church fund and hoping it will go help someone in another country.
bingo. I'm Catholic and I thought the same thing.
Some folks need to get out more.
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