Posted on 11/10/2007 7:22:46 AM PST by Gamecock
So, one FREEPER elects to hold a mirror up to LDS doctrine & it's a "hit piece." But LDS training & sending almost 70,000 some world-wide missionaries to go door-to-door, where the training inherently focuses on 1 of 3 major doctrines--the accusatory apostasy of all Christians (& restoration)--& that's not 70,000 daily "hit pieces" at the door?
Jehovah's Witnesses who go door to door are called "publishers" (& that's essentially what LDS missionaries are).
Do you tithe? Then, your $ has gone toward publishing & distributing world-wide millions of copies of the Pearl of Great Price...including multiple-language translations? Wanna flip through the Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith - History, vv. 18-19 to find out what your tithe is paying for description-wise of the entire non-Mormon churches?
Those verses tell us (a) all Christians who profess their faith are "corrupt"; (b) all Christians creeds are an "abomination to God." Furthermore, LDS missionaries are taught to teach as one of the top three doctrines the tall tale that all Christian churches & its members are apostates of the faith (kind of like Muslims referencing all Christians as "infidels").
To peddle this kind of obscene publishing nonsense worldwide thru millions of printed pages til Christ returns and thru perhaps billions of man-hours til Christ returns...and then you compare all that to one measly post like this one?
Yes or no, MK, does the possibility exist that Mitt Romney will one day be his own god of a planet and receive worship from those spirits he's been involved in pro-creating?
As a serious response, we need to guard against the idea that there is a common God that all the religions worship.
By definition, Allah is NOT Yahweh.
By definition, the Cosmos is NOT Yahweh.
By definition, the Mormon god is NOT Yahweh.
We have a Religion Forum here on Free Republic so that religious issues can be discussed.
Over the years, the protocol and manners for the Forum have developed into a pretty fair discussion room.
Please stay for the conversations!!!
In answer to your repeated question that I think I answered already, I believe the church doctrine on that subject and see nothing wrong with it so long as its an accurate quote from one of our prophets. It has not been changed or backed away from in the history of the church. It is central to understanding the rest of the gospel and I see nothing about it that doesnt make sense or is un-Christian. To not think that we came from our God is to think that we just came from nowhere and I dont accept that.
I created in a manner of speaking both my engine in my truck and my 3 kids. Which one do you think I love more?
I didnt come here with an attitude looking for an argument, I just asked a question and tried to remind you guys we are on the same side. So how do I get all forums besides this one to show up?
Well, it doesnt do a lot to make members of our church feel welcome here is my point. I still believe in the conservative movement even if I disagree with some things I may see on the site, but if I was on the fence I wouldnt come back. Of course, there are only over 12 million members world wide, so its not like a big group of people or anything.
There seems to be a delay in my posts getting posted or else I violated a rule I dont know about. I dont mind reading others opinion and I even submit that you shouldnt agree with my church, because if you do, you better change over quick! Just like if I agreed with your church I would be duty bound to convert.
The short answer of your question that didnt get posted from before is yes. And to answer your follow on question, no I dont see that as in any way taking away from the glory of our creator, in fact I see it as increasing that glory. You’ll notice that children are celebrated all throughout the bible as a sign of how great a man was.
My underlying point is just that there are a lot of these type posts and I dont want to see a site with so many positive aspects push aside a large group of voters who need to hear/see the conservative side. I think many of the posts here are unnecessarily harsh and intended to inflame rather then discuss.
I don’t have any interest at all in discussing theological matters with you.
Thanks,
sitetest
“Well, it doesnt do a lot to make members of our church feel welcome here is my point.”
Well, it doesn’t do a lot to make members of the Catholic Church feel welcome here when folks criticize our theology.
But, this is the RELIGION Forum. If you can’t take a fair critique of your religious beliefs, then go hang out in the other parts of Free Republic.
Mind you, I’m dead set against folks mocking other folks’ religion, or the members of other religions. I’m dead set against nastiness, name-calling, refraining from giving the benefit of the doubt, ascribing evil motives.
There were folks who used to be here at Free Republic who used to mercilessly mock the LDS, and that which LDS folks hold holy. They were banned, and rightly so, even if I considered some of them friends. There are others here who mercilessly mock Catholicism and what we Catholics hold holy. These, typically, haven't been banned, and in my own opinion, that doesn't reflect well on the moderation of this forum. Posters like that very well should be banned, just as those who mocked the LDS were banned.
But good, honest presentation and debate of religious differences are part of what the Religion Forum is about.
“I still believe in the conservative movement even if I disagree with some things I may see on the site, but if I was on the fence I wouldnt come back.”
Then perhaps you would be someone insufficiently thick-skinned to be a conservative. After all, we receive far worse in the lamestream media every day.
“Of course, there are only over 12 million members world wide, so its not like a big group of people or anything.”
From my Catholic perspective, no, it doesn’t seem to be a big group of people at all.
sitetest
Ping
“Secondly, if God has not eternally been God, then obviously there must have been a God or gods before Him “
Even better, there must have been multiple Goddesses stretching back to eternity to bear spirit children.
Wackier and wackier, Alice follows the rabbit down the hole.
“This is where the rubber hits the road. As a Mormon, I believed this doctrine, but I don’t think I ever felt comfortable with it.”
You obviously see the problem. I believe, through experience, that certain Mormons (Harry Reid being one) end up believing they “got their planet early” and their egos expand indefinitely. That is my difficulty with a Mormon at the presidential level. My Governor here in Nevada is Mormon and seems to be trying to do a creditable job, but the man-God thing can cloud the judgement.
“I dont see Mormons on here posting hit pieces on other churches.”
That’s because they claim to be the same as everyone else, though they consider all others apostates. A schizophrenic situation.
So other churches dont think we are all brothers and sisters then? Wow.
Oh well, I’ll look all you guys up in the hereafter to say I told you so. ha ha. Have a good day!
I suspect that most politicians have a god complex. Romney is not the only one. Everyone on the democrat side has one, and many of the republican candidates seem to have similar egos. I mean you've got to have a huge ego to run for president in the first place.
“I suspect that most politicians have a god complex. Romney is not the only one. Everyone on the democrat side has one, and many of the republican candidates seem to have similar egos. I mean you’ve got to have a huge ego to run for president in the first place.”
Quite true. But in Romney’s case, his ego problem is compounded by Mormon doctrine. Rigid perfectionism can be quite brittle. Whether you like it or not, the White Horse Prophecy begins to rear its head.
Satan wants people to ridicule the idea of his existence and ignore his heretical inveiglings. Opposition to Mormonism is all about eternal destiny. A true spiritually alive serving Christian is acutely interested in the fate of those caught in heretical teachings. And all the more when one sees such sincere, conservative, loving people perishing.
1 Tim 3
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory
When one receives their glory from God the Father they become exalted!
2 Peter 1
17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Jesus did not start out as a man and then later become an exalted man/god. Jesus was God (from all eternity) and he lowered himself and took on human flesh.
The Mormon god is a man who (through hard work and obedience to the laws and ordinances of the council of the Gods on the planet Kolob) ultmately was given the opportunity to become one of the legion of gods in the universe.
The Mormon god is not God Almighty who became Man.
Don't confuse the two.
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