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I don’t have time to play today, but you guys are killing me. You wouldn’t have lasted 10 minutes in the ancient Church headed up by Peter as the Lord’s appointed “funds gatherer”. They didn’t just live the law of tithing, a mere 10 percent, they lived a FULL 100 PERCENT, all things in common.

Welcome to the 21st century where we live in the present and not the past. Last time I checked we thankfully were living in 2007 and not under the taxing authority of 0003. That special tax was also tried here in Orderville in 1870..Also a dismal failure.

Bing, What are you talking about? You know the law of tithing is “fire insurance.” You and I will burn up as stubble since we don’t have the proper “testimony.”

D&C 64: 23 Behold, now it is called today until the coming of the Son of Man, and verily it is a day of sacrifice, and a day for the tithing of my people; for he that is tithed shall not be burned at his coming.
24 For after today cometh the burning—this is speaking after the manner of the Lord—for verily I say, tomorrow all the proud and they that do wickedly shall be as stubble; and I will burn them up, for I am the Lord of Hosts; and I will not dspare any that remain in Babylon.

If the church would open up the books with a complete and honest accounting and show me how my tithing was spent, I wouldn't be so critical. And yes, I fasted and prayed about it; it was revealed to me that the church is false. That is my testimony.

The church is audited regularly by both an external auditing agency, and by internal auditors, the information is available here and that includes the training ward financial clerks get.

Are you saying that every check written to every widow, every delivery of food from the Bishops Storehouse must be individually identifiable to you by name of recipient so you can go and count every apple? Get over yourself already.

I have a basic example of rights I give to people. Your right to swing your fist ends at the point of my nose. When your "Rights" as you imagine them to be negatively impact others, you have given yourself far more "Rights" than you should.

Has God revealed everything to you?

Does he need to in order for you to believe?

Again, get over yourself.

Your testimony has the ring of falsehood, and that is all I am going to say about it. Write on, you make us look good by comparison.

Well, if you have come to believe that the Church is false, what possible reason could you have for demanding a “complete and honest” accounting? In other words, how is it any of your business?

I will answer for you: It is not!

Looks like this thread might be pulled soon, so let me try to catch up before that happens. Good thing I checked in.

Last time I checked we thankfully were living in 2007 and not under the taxing authority of 0003.

Giving to the Lord might be looked on by some as a tax. How sad. I think you are mistaking the early apostles for communists. They tried to have all things in common too, but when it's of man and not of God, then it is and will always be a fraud of the real intent of God. Please don't confuse the socialist intent of Hillary with the spiritual intent of Peter.