[Mrs. Don-o]

"If I remember right, back in the middle 1500’s there were some in Trent who had the power and the cahones [cojones] to actually publicly throw someone out of the church."

We're agreed, then, that what we need is a more robust, muscular, and fully Catholic Church?

[Alex Murphy]

We're agreed, then, that what we need is a more robust, muscular, and fully Catholic Church?

I think we can agree that all churches should be "more robust, muscular, and fully etc" about whatever they believe, and in how they grow and cull their congregations. Church teaching and discipline is waning IMO across the board. How else do churches move converts from milk to meat, and from repentance to obedience? If churches are supposed to be like hospitals (an analogy I often hear from my Evangelical friends), they're not supposed to be 100% newborn and infant nurseries.