“It doesn’t say ‘clan’ it says ‘family’.”
I was using the NIV translation. Are you saying the NIV is not a correct translation? Any credible Bible scholar would disagree with you, including my uncle who translated Scripture for a living. “Family” and “clan” have the same meaning.
“Moreover, that very verse contradicts what you are trying to push since the Jews didn’t mourn for Christ as an only son when he appeared over Jerusalem.”
I’m not trying to push anything. I’m trying to interpret Scripture in light of Scripture. It’s dispensationalism that’s trying to push something that’s unbiblical. You weren’t there and neither was I. Jesus told Caiaphus that he would “see the Son of Man coming on the clouds” (Mark 16:62). Do you really think Caiaphus is still waiting around to see Him?
We can only go by Scripture. Scofield’s notes is not a good way to arrive at the truth.
The NIV says “trumpet call of God.” To my reading, that does not imply a “secret rapture.”
I was using the NIV translation. Are you saying the NIV is not a correct translation? Any credible Bible scholar would disagree with you, including my uncle who translated Scripture for a living. Family and clan have the same meaning.
I am saying exactly that!
The NIV is a corrupt version.
[ Moreover, that very verse contradicts what you are trying to push since the Jews didnt mourn for Christ as an only son when he appeared over Jerusalem. ]
Im not trying to push anything. Im trying to interpret Scripture in light of Scripture. Its dispensationalism thats trying to push something thats unbiblical. You werent there and neither was I. Jesus told Caiaphus that he would see the Son of Man coming on the clouds (Mark 16:62). Do you really think Caiaphus is still waiting around to see Him?
Did the Jewish people convert as it says in Zech 12:10 or not?
Stop jumping around trying to avoid the scriptures.
Now as for Caiaphus, what Christ told him was that he would see Him sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven(Mk.14:62)
Note the comma between the two events, first Christ sits and then He returns and in between that we have waited 2,000 years.
Caiaphus will see Christ sitting on the right hand of power, when he is judged by Christ at the great white throne judgement
I checked the NIV and they have 'and' and leave out the comma.
We can only go by Scripture. Scofields notes is not a good way to arrive at the truth.
And either is the NIV or any modern version.
The NIV says trumpet call of God. To my reading, that does not imply a secret rapture.
That is why the correct translation is 'trump' not trumpet, and you will note in that verse that there are voices, we see the Lord descending with a shout, the voice of the archangel and the 'trump' of God is His voice as well,(Rev.4:1) it is not the sound of any trumpets.
The NIV is not a translation...It's a paraphrase...
And if 'family' and 'clan' mean the same thing, why change family to clan???
By the way, the NIV translation also has earth, not land.
I haven't found any translation that translated Matthew 24:30 with the word 'land' instead of 'earth', which means that when Christ comes back He is seen by all of the peoples of the Earth, something that definitely did not happen in 70AD.