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To: Uncle Chip; xzins; Iscool
And you cannot prove otherwise, can you????

I do not have to prove a negative, thank you very much.

This sure sounds like the dispensation after the times of the Gentiles spoken of by Jesus, doesn't it:

What "dispensation after the times of the Gentiles"? That’s all part of the dispensational fantasy. Paul is talking about the present ingathering of the elect to Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. That’s what makes it "full".

It doesn’t take a dispensational view of the Bible to figure that out.

133 posted on 11/05/2007 8:12:16 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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To: topcat54; Uncle Chip

I do not have to prove a negative,

= = =

He’s right in more ways than one, Chip . . .

Replacementarians don’t have to prove a negative . . .

they just get up in the morning . . .

. . . and there, greeting them in their mirrors is more than sufficient negative to fuel their theology the live long day.

LOL.


135 posted on 11/05/2007 8:23:48 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: topcat54; xzins; Quix
What "dispensation after the times of the Gentiles"? That’s all part of the dispensational fantasy. Paul is talking about the present ingathering of the elect to Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. That’s what makes it "full".

So Jesus's words regarding the times of the Gentiles in Luke 21 are fantasy???:

"20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled ... in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

That all happened in 70 AD and the last time I checked there are a lot of Gentile feet over there in Jerusalem, thus we must still be in the times of the Gentiles. Luke then tells us what will transpire after those times are fulfilled:

"25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

Surely you are not going to tell us that the times of the Gentiles were fulfilled in 70 AD??? or are you???Are you also going to tell us that the Son of Man came in 70 AD as well????

136 posted on 11/05/2007 8:40:41 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: topcat54
I do not have to prove a negative, thank you very much.

You haven't been able to prove anything -- positive, negative, or neutral.

137 posted on 11/05/2007 8:43:19 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: topcat54; xzins
Paul is talking about the present ingathering of the elect to Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. That’s what makes it "full".

Not according the Geneva Bible's notes He isn't.

The Geneva notes for Eph.1:10 state,

14) The Father exhibited and gave Christ, who is the head of all the elect to the world, at that time which was convenient according as he most wisely disposed all times from everlasting(emphasis added). And Christ is he in whom all the elect from the beginning of the world (otherwise wandering and separated from God) are gathered together. And some of these elect were in heaven, when he came into the earth, that is, those who by faith in him to come, were gathered together. And others being found upon the earth were gathered together by him, and the rest are daily gathered together.

http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/GenevaStudyBible/gen.cgi?book=eph&chapter=001

150 posted on 11/05/2007 12:31:10 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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