I agree. :-)
Maybe we are talking across each other over some fine point neither is seeing.
The passages in Revelation demonstrate that the dead in Christ are aware, in heaven, and with the Lord.
My only point from the beginning is that they were all dead at one time. Thus they are not alive. We are told not to:
Deut. 18:11 ...or one who calls up the dead.
You said, if they pray to someone in heaven through GOD it was okay. I was making the point that in no short order God gets dropped from the equation and that's how some of this Mary stuff probably got started.
Am I missing a point you are trying to get across to Me? I value your insights.
I would not have said “if they pray to someone in heaven through God.”
I would have send something on the order of “If they desire to send a message to someone in heaven through God...”
I would not have used the word “pray” for anyone but God. If I did, and I’m not convinced that I did, then it was a slip of the typewriter during a brainstorm of typing.