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To: Iscool; topcat54

***This is after Jesus shows up again...Has it been fulfilled??? Of course not...***

Which part hasn’t been fulfilled: OUT OF ZION [shall come] the deliver. Did you MISS the Incarnation of the living God? Are men turning away from ungodliness? Were not their sins taken away by the Passover Lamb? Is not all Israel currently being saved? (the answer to all the questions is “yes” BTW)

The only part that I see which is not yet complete is the fullness of the gentiles.

See, all you Dispensationalists are STILL reading the Scriptures through the filter of your eschatology. The Deliverer has ALREADY come.

***When God is done with the Gentiles, he will turn again to Israel...***

In our Gospel God never abandoned Israel. Blindness has come only in PART. The Lord is, even STILL, seperating his sheep from the goats for they are not all Israel that are of Israel. Learn the simple gospel truth:

I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. ~ Paul, the Apostle.

BTW, also note that Paul denotes the blood Israelites as “of the seed of Abraham.”


803 posted on 11/01/2007 12:08:18 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Lord_Calvinus
Which part hasn’t been fulfilled: OUT OF ZION [shall come] the deliver. Did you MISS the Incarnation of the living God?

Do you read the bible??? Do you believe the bible???

The scripture said After the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled, the Deliverer shows up...Do you get that??? Do you understand that???

Is not all Israel currently being saved?

Most of the Isrealis are non religious...They are being blown up and bombed daily...

I don't know what news channel you watch but Israel is NOT currently being saved...

The only part that I see which is not yet complete is the fullness of the gentiles.

AND THAT HAS TO HAPPEN FIRST before the Deliverer shows up!!!!!

Jesus came the first time as a prophet...The second time he will come as a Roaring Lion and Deliver his people, Israel from the Nations of the World...

810 posted on 11/01/2007 12:20:49 PM PDT by Iscool (What if Jesus meant everything that He said...)
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To: Lord_Calvinus; Iscool; Dr. Eckleburg; tabsternager
BTW, also note that Paul denotes the blood Israelites as “of the seed of Abraham.”

You have to understand, what’s going on in the world today and for the past 2000 years wrt ethnic Israel is just an afterthought, a parenthesis. The real action doesn’t come until these "semi-Jews" and their gentile brethren that are part of the Church get raptured away. Then the real fun begins.

Two-thirds of the millions of ethnic Jews (God's earthly people) living in Israel are slaughtered. The blood covers an areas 200 miles in all directions to a depth of 3 or 4 feet.

Then one hundred and forty-four thousand Jewish evangelists are able to accomplish in just a couple years what centuries of faithful believers, many Jewish themselves, empowered by the Holy Spirit were unable to accomplish, the mass conversion of "all Israel". Every last living Jews, man, woman and child, gets converted almost instantly.

And mind you they are able to accomplish this in the midst of utter chaos and total destruction going on in the world, stars falling from heavens, creature coming up from the ground and tormenting men, floods, earthquakes, rivers turned to blood, thousand pound chucks of ice falling, disruptions of all sorts. All electricity and communications in a shambles. Nobody "left behind" to run the TBN transmitter and keep the satellites in orbit.

It boggles the mind.

814 posted on 11/01/2007 12:33:50 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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