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To: topcat54

Actually, since we are discussing the passages about the battle of Gog and Magog....if you read Ezekiel 38 and 39, God’s Word tells us about the ingathering of the people Israel from all over the world.....and about the group of nations from the north sweeping down through Israel as a cloud....but I haven’t found anything in those prophetic chapters which talk about the people of Israel being destroyed, wiped out, slaughtered......However, there is much about the armies that invade dying on the mountains of Israel....and them and all their war implements being buried in the land.....and that God reveals His Holiness to the nations through what happens in this great conflict as well as establishing for His people in Israel, His faithfulness in delivering them from this great military force....so that His name is no longer profaned and so that all his people he ingathered will be there for this display of His mighty saving and delivering power....and not one who should be there to witness it is left out!

(read all of ch 37, and 38, and 39 of Ezekiel...and here are the closing verses of Ezekiel 39):

“21 “I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay upon them. 22 From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the LORD their God. 23 And the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin, because they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. 24 I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offenses, and I hid my face from them.

25 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will now bring Jacob back from captivity [f] and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name. 26 They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed toward me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid. 27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.”


115 posted on 10/24/2007 9:47:02 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

There you go again . . .

trying to confuse them with Biblical facts.

What a cheeky thing to do!

LOL.


125 posted on 10/24/2007 10:54:01 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
but I haven’t found anything in those prophetic chapters which talk about the people of Israel being destroyed, wiped out, slaughtered

The verses used to support that scenario are found in Zechariah 13:

7 "Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd, Against the Man who is My Companion," Says the Lord of hosts. "Strike the Shepherd, And the sheep will be scattered; Then I will turn My hand against the little ones. 8 And it shall come to pass in all the land," Says the Lord, "That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die, But one-third shall be left in it: 9 I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, 'This is My people'; And each one will say, 'The Lord is my God.' "
Here’s how one futurist interprets the passage:
The purge of Israel in their time of trouble is described by Zechariah in these words: “And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith Jehovah, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part into the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried” (Zechariah 13:8, 9). According to Zechariah’s prophecy, two thirds of the children of Israel in the land will perish, but the one third that are left will be refined and be awaiting the deliverance of God at the second coming of Christ which is described in the next chapter of Zechariah. (John Walvoord, Israel in Prophecy)

so that His name is no longer profaned and so that all his people he ingathered will be there for this display of His mighty saving and delivering power

Except for the 2/3 that are slaughtered.

127 posted on 10/25/2007 5:17:05 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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