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To: Cvengr
I’ve found the issue of the trinity is best understood by simply recognizing God Provides.

Yes. He provides for us through each member. Visually, I have found the pretzel to be an easy way to teach the Trinity to children.

God didn’t provide us with a Library of Congress and encyclopedias of quantum mechanics in order for us to understand everything in His Creation, so why would we be so arrogant as to think we would comprehend Him in a fashion we comprehend worldly things, independent of simple faith through Him?

You make an excellent point! Scientists can't explain the universe. It is indeed arrogant for man to think he can comprehend the mind of God.

28 posted on 10/20/2007 5:22:27 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

I know I’m not expressing myself well on this point.

I think of it in this fashion. Through faith in Christ, I recognize that God has in eternity past considered the best way He is able to make Himself known by His Creation including man.

When He reveals Himself, and we understand He does reveal Himself as God the Father, also by God the Son, and also by God the Holy Spirit,...when He has chosen to thus reveal Himself in this fashion, then if we don’t understand it is either because we have a natural state which has strayed from Him or it is because we have scarred our thinking processes so as to wrongly influence our understanding of what He has provided.

He still provides a way in which we may have fellowship with Him, so by remaining in faith through Him, and slowly thinking about Him through these different persons, we might be able to better understand Him.

I have no criticism of the driver’s wheel model.

Instead, through faith in Him,... in all things, including our thinking of doctrine, we place ourselves in His hands so that when we view the model, He guides us in our thinking.

Likewise in study of Him by reading Scripture. I’ve found study of the Trinity to be one of the most rewarding studies as it helps us better comprehend and identify what and how He has prepared things for us from eternity past to eternity future.

In studying the Son of God as discerned from God the Father, who have the same essence, but different persons, we are provided an example of how man should think while he is in fellowship with God.

In studying the Holy Spirit, as discerned from the Son of God, we grow to understand how Divine power is provided to man for us to utilize, but again only though faith in Him, not of ourselves, but from Him, for the performance of good works. We also see how the Holy Spirit indwelling us provides the temple for the indwelling of Christ who is one with the Father.

In studying the Holy Spirit as discerned from God the Father, we also are able to discern mechanisms which exist between our communicating to God and His perfect holiness which is respected by the Holy Spirit expressing our thinking in proper inexplicable moanings to the Father.

We discover how God the Son nor the Holy Spirit, doesn’t know the day or hour of His second coming, yet He is still God. If this appears to be contradictory, that sense is a manifestation that somewhere in our past thinking we have improperly perceived His true nature, because He Himself has revealed to us something about Himself in a perfect fashion. He is not a God of confusion, but has blessed us with His revelation of what He actually is to our scarred minds.


32 posted on 10/20/2007 7:00:13 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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