[Greg F]

Communion for unrepentant sinners? I don’t see that as right.

It says in the Bible to leave the temple if you’ve wronged your brother, make amends, and then return.

Matthew 5:23-24 “Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.”

I think that applies to a male, dressing as a nun in a manner that clearly indicates homosexual activity. If he repents, he should go home, change, and come back.

1 Corinthians 11

27Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. 31But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment. 32When we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned with the world.

[Mad Dawg]

It's interesting. Certainly the "default" (in the sense that it's what you do in the absence of reasons to do otherwise) is to communicate those who present themselves. That's got to make the clergy in San Francisco feel under the gun at every Mass. "Oh Lord, puhLEEZE don't let somebody do something weird today. I just want to make it to bedtime without messing up, okay?"

Come to think of it, that's pretty much what I pray every morning, if not in those exact words.

Last Spring some studentesses of the local U came to daily PM Mass with T-shirts supporting homosexuality. Something like "Gay? Okay with me." Though I was there, They were over on the starboard side and I was on the port side, and I've sort of gotten the impression that checking out the chicks is not only creepy when you're 59, but it's also not exactly good preparation for the Sacrament, so I didn't even know they were there. (No. Really! I especially didn't notice the blonde. Wow, did I ever not notice her!)

Anyway, the priest, a buddy of mine, was visibly percolating with wrath after the service. While he communicated them, he also summoned them for a dressing down -- um, let me rephrase that -- a stern lecture the next day.

Clearly the abp. didn't have that option. I think he flinched under fire. Not the end of the world. Live and learn, sez me.

[ELS]

Rev. Jim Bretzke, professor of moral theology at University of San Francisco

O Lord, help us!

[theFIRMbss]

>visiting professor of theology at Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin

[BigFinn]

How far... how progressive the 'church' has become... when I read of the early church I can't help but see how it has regressed into the traditions, thinking and wisdom of man and not God.

Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

I think 'salty' has another meaning in today's church.

[hinckley buzzard]

a Jesuit Catholic Priest Professor

The discerning observor will immediately note that "Christian" is not one of this cleric's descriptors. Most Jesuits in the last sixty years or so have abandoned the Christian faith in favor of Gnosticism.

[magisterium]

I'm sure there's an exception or two around someplace, but I am not personally aware of the existence of a single Jesuit under 60 years of age who, if Jesus Christ Himself ordered him to do such-and-such, would not remonstrate with Him and say it would be better to do so-and-so, instead. These guys are so full of themselves, with so little discernable evidence that they have any reason to be, that they should simply be suppressed as an order. Now. They should be spared the embarrassment they incur on themselves simply by having an official public platform from which to spout their raving nonsense/heresy/blasphemy.