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To: Rutles4Ever
But if the keys were given to the entire Church, how are they not found in Rome? The contradictions in logic are breathtaking.

Rome claims that the "keys to the kingsom" lay an exclusive, supreme rulership of the Church in Rome, which is completely contrary to the teaching consensus of the church fathers on the matter of Matthew 16:18-19.

Note that in context, Augustine, as I have noted, says that Peter symbolized the church, and does NOT say that the bishops of Rome do.

But they do

Only in the illusion set up by Roman Catholicism. The Greeks have never believed that, nor any other Christians.

and the evidence is exhaustive to that effect.

Wrong again, ask the Greeks.

If Rome had no primacy then, how do they have primacy today?

Rome doesn't have any primacy now, just as it never has.

388 posted on 10/23/2007 3:01:25 PM PDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: Missey_Lucy_Goosey
Only in the illusion set up by Roman Catholicism. The Greeks have never believed that, nor any other Christians.

What about all the Eastern Churches that recognize the primacy of Rome? Or does that sully your point, yet again?

and the evidence is exhaustive to that effect.

Wrong again, ask the Greeks.

Again, Clement/Corinth, et al. The Greek Orthodox Church is small potatoes compared to the enrollment of Roman Catholicism. Since "exhaustive" doesn't imply "totality", I don't understand your response.

Rome doesn't have any primacy now, just as it never has.

Then why are you so threatened?

391 posted on 10/24/2007 10:08:17 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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