By that argument, Jesus is not present with us at all.
Spiritually He is present through the ministry of the Holy Spirit, but not physically. That is what the second coming means -- His second physical coming to earth.
321 posted on 10/17/2007 8:21:44 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
(TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)