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To: Rutles4Ever
It has been a long standing doctrine of Rome that the Roman church and pope of Rome are the supreme rulers of both the ecclesiastical realm as well as the temporal realm.

If that's the case, your bone to pick is with Christ Himself for "foolishly" giving Peter the, um, KEYS to the kingdom of Heaven.

But Christ did not give the "keys" exclusively to Peter, and the early church fathers, you know, "tradition" did not believe that later assertion by Rome either, as I have already cited.

So much for the "unanimous consent of the fathers".

300 posted on 10/17/2007 3:34:02 PM PDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: Missey_Lucy_Goosey
But Christ did not give the "keys" exclusively to Peter, and the early church fathers, you know, "tradition" did not believe that later assertion by Rome either, as I have already cited.

Since Jesus used the words "keys", and specifically named "Peter". I don't see what the misunderstanding is. Add to that Jesus' singular commission of Peter as the shepherd, and your position is really a head-scratcher. Review Isaiah 22:20-24 for context of Jesus' words.

So much for the "unanimous consent of the fathers".

It's hard to debate someone who doesn't understand the basics of Catholic theology. Until you actually apply yourself to serious study and reflection, you're not going to get far in the subject matter.

301 posted on 10/17/2007 4:19:18 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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