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To: xzins
I’ve looked at a topo map.

Jerusalem does not have seven hills.

Close, but you just didn’t fit all the imagery into its proper place.

It's a symbol referring to the relationship between Jerusalem and Rome at the time of the crucifixion of Christ and the persecution of the Church. Rome is the beast with seven heads and ten horns on which the woman rides.

Of the "harlot" we are told, "the kings of the earth committed fornication" with her. This imagery is taken straight from the book of Ezekiel, where Israel the harlot is described like this:

"You offered yourself to everyone who passed by, and multiplied your acts of harlotry. You also committed harlotry with the Egyptians, your very fleshly neighbors, and increased your acts of harlotry to provoke Me to anger. " (Eze. 16:25,26)

"Then the Babylonians came to her, into the bed of love, And they defiled her with their immorality; So she was defiled by them, and alienated herself from them. She revealed her harlotry and uncovered her nakedness. Then I alienated Myself from her, As I had alienated Myself from her sister." (Eze. 23:17,18)

Jerusalem is described as "the great city" in chapter 11, "which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."

You need to understand the spiritual nature of the book of Revelation and put yourself in the place of 1st century Christians or you will never get the symbols.

The fact remains that there is no way you can get the "harlot" image to fit pagan Rome. Only Jerusalem (Israel), the wife of God, was in a position to play the spiritual harlot.

This is also seen by understanding the contrast between the "harlot" and "the bride" (heavenly Jerusalem) in Revelation.

208 posted on 10/16/2007 5:18:26 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: topcat54

TC, I respect you, and I know you have lots of knowledge on the subject, but I also know we come from entirely different perspectives on this. You have to read what I say by looking through my premill lens. I have to read what you say by looking through your preterist lens.

When I see a place where those biases would affect interpretation, symbology, or even history, then I should be honest about my own (and your) tendencies in certain directions.

The topo map clearly does not have Jerusalem having 7 hills. (There are only 3 clear hills inside the entire Old City.)

I haven’t checked the topo of Rome yet, but I will. I’ll try to be just as honest.


209 posted on 10/16/2007 5:29:24 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: topcat54
Jerusalem is described as "the great city" in chapter 11, "which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."

If it is named as Sodom & Egypt, then it probably isn't also Rome.

220 posted on 10/16/2007 8:43:38 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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