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“The replies are typical of the arrogance of the mormon position, “there is no truth but OUR truth”, especially evident in Grig’s statement, ‘You’ve only demonstrated that different people make contradictory claims. You have not established that those people all had in fact the same kind of experience, that their accounts are honest, and accurate. God is perfectly capable of communicating with us in many different ways, and what God reveals is true even when it appears to conflict with what men think to be true.’ “

What I said there was nothing more than a statement of fact.

“Also the closing statement in his post: You can either do it and find out or remain frustrated in the dark. Your choice.’ “

Also a statement of fact. Some things you can only know by doing, even Christ said so. will you accuse Christ of arrogance as well?

“Note the phrase, “ God is perfectly capable of communicating with us in many different ways, and what God reveals is true even when it appears to conflict with what men think to be true.” The unspoken message in that is that “God reveals OUR truth, but the rest of you just THINK He reveals His truth to YOU!”

‘unspoken message’ = mind reading

I specifically said more than once in this tread that a person should not take my word or anyone else’s word for it. They should find out for themselves. What I expect has nothing to do with what God will or will not do.

“Next time the young, fresh-faced, clean cut young men come knocking at your door, remember that. And the next time your clean-living, kind, “nicest people in the world” mormon neighbors wave at you over the back fence, remember that. THEY believe that spiritually, they are much better “blessed” than you are and that you are “wandering in the dark.””

If you think Mormons are walking in the light of the true gospel, why does the idea of someone being or becoming a Mormon bother you? If you think there is nothing for a Mormon to gain by joining you, why try and convince us to leave our church?

God is not a respecter of persons and he loves us all. We do believe we are blessed with the fullness of the gospel but we don’t look down on others who haven’t accepted it. Having the gospel doesn’t make us better than anyone, it puts on us a greater obligation to spread the knowledge of it through the world. That ‘clean-living, kind, “nicest people in the world” mormon neighbor’ considers you a brother and would be happy to see your life be blessed by the fullness of the gospel as much as his has been.

“What the nation faces with Romney is the possibility that there could be someone as POTUS who deep down, in his heart, TRULY believes the same way. That HIS truth is the ONLY truth, and in that case, he is justified in whatever he does”

So you want someone who belongs to a church but doesn’t ‘really’ belive in it? I guess Rudy is your man then.

Again, how does the POTUS having a conviction that Mormonism is true impact on government policy or the performance of his duties? None. Your fearmongering is silly and paranoid. If you want an example of someone who does think anything they do is justified, just look at the Clintons. If Romney would be so dangerous in a position of responsibility, how come he did so well at Bain? How did he pull off that miracle turning the Olympics around?

No matter who is elected POTUS, they are going to have to make critical decisions often without having all the facts. Wouldn’t having a POTUS who (in addition to all he can do) prays to God in times like this be better than having one who won’t pray?