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To: Ottofire

Very interesting article. I’m becoming fascinated with the writings of the earliest church fathers (ie, prior to 100 AD) because in those writings are the thoughts of the people who knew Jesus themselves, and the thoughts of those who studied at their feet.


43 posted on 09/28/2007 9:59:34 AM PDT by Terabitten (Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
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To: Terabitten; Ottofire
Very interesting article. I’m becoming fascinated with the writings of the earliest church fathers (ie, prior to 100 AD) because in those writings are the thoughts of the people who knew Jesus themselves, and the thoughts of those who studied at their feet.

43 posted on 09/28/2007 10:59:34 AM MDT by Terabitten

I agree with your train of thought!

All of the apostles except Doctor Luke were Jews.

Yah'shua is a Jew.

He will come again to rule and reign from Jerusalem on the throne of David.

Greek Paganism was introduced during the second and third century.

Greek Paganism was codified and mandated by the leader of the Pagan Empire in the fourth century.

All Jews were driven from the "Corporate Church" which was part of the Pagan Empire.

Yah'shua taught from the Tanach.

Rav Shaul(Paul) taught from the Tanach.

The New Covenant as taught by Yah'shua is in Jeremiah 31:31.

There are many future prophesies to be fulfilled from the Tanach.

shalom b'shem Yah'shua
49 posted on 09/28/2007 10:43:40 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Terabitten; Ottofire
Very interesting article. I’m becoming fascinated with the writings of the earliest church fathers (ie, prior to 100 AD) because in those writings are the thoughts of the people who knew Jesus themselves, and the thoughts of those who studied at their feet.

Take care that you not be caught up in early fiction.
69 posted on 09/28/2007 1:56:01 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Terabitten

>Very interesting article. I’m becoming fascinated with the writings of the earliest church fathers (ie, prior to 100 AD) because in those writings are the thoughts of the people who knew Jesus themselves, and the thoughts of those who studied at their feet.

I agree. Such as Irenaus and his claim that Jesus died when He was fifty. And that this is what was taught to him by the apostles.

So when was that brought in as Roman Catholic de fides?


83 posted on 09/28/2007 7:10:38 PM PDT by Ottofire (Works only reveal faith, just as fruits only show the tree, whether it is a good tree. -MLuther)
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