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To: ArrogantBustard; Senior Chief

Senior Chief, pinging you to a discussion of John 2, the wedding at Cana.

Responding to your post Arrogant Bustard

I started to say “Playing devil’s advocate” . . . but it seemed wrong in this context. : )

What you say regarding God’s omniscience and prayer is orthodox, my problem is that I haven’t seen a good orthodox explanation of what Christ meant when he said “my time is not yet come” at the wedding at Cana. It’s there for a reason; I just don’t know what it is!


21 posted on 09/27/2007 1:23:29 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F
I'm approaching the topic obliquely ... can God change His Mind (in His Divine Nature)? I think not ...

So ... perhaps Christ is changing His mine (in His human nature).

24 posted on 09/27/2007 1:29:35 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Greg F
What you say regarding God’s omniscience and prayer is orthodox, my problem is that I haven’t seen a good orthodox explanation of what Christ meant when he said “my time is not yet come” at the wedding at Cana. It’s there for a reason; I just don’t know what it is!

It's one of my favorite NT passages ... you can almost see Jesus saying, "Awww, Mommmmmmm!"

It's an example, I think, of a couple of things. First, there's that whole Jewish thing: "Obey God, obey your parents." So you can see it in that context.

There's also something else, though, and to me it's reminiscent of this story:

As Jesus went, the people pressed around him. And there was a woman who had had a discharge of blood for twelve years, and though she had spent all her living on physicians, she could not be healed by anyone. She came up behind him and touched the fringe of his garment, and immediately her discharge of blood ceased. And Jesus said, "Who was it that touched me?" When all denied it, Peter said, "Master, the crowds surround you and are pressing in on you!" But Jesus said, "Someone touched me, for I perceive that power has gone out from me." And when the woman saw that she was not hidden, she came trembling, and falling down before him declared in the presence of all the people why she had touched him, and how she had been immediately healed. And he said to her, "Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace." (Luke 8:42-48)

It's almost as if Jesus is "powerless" to resist those who show faith in His power. And Mary showed similar faith, so it's like he had to follow through.

As a side note, Jesus made a couple of hundred gallons of wine at the wedding in Cana....

32 posted on 09/27/2007 2:16:46 PM PDT by r9etb
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