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To: wideawake

I would like to know what you mean by this comment. I don’t remember the date, but the Latin Church did make it mandatory.

Having two jobs isn’t easy, try three! I know many of my fellow Orthodox priest that do. Their parishes are to small to pay much, so they have another paying job as well as being a dad. At one time the man would go to seminary right after high school, marry, waited until his kids were older, then was ordained and accepted a parish. Now that more women hold jobs, that isn’t the case.

FYI: The Catholic Church did recognize Holy Orders of the ECUSP until they started ordaining women.


19 posted on 09/10/2007 4:57:07 PM PDT by frtom
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To: frtom

frtom:

I don’t think your statement is correct about the Catholic Church recognizing Anglican/Episcopalian orders. I think it was Pope Pius VIII or Pope Pius X who issued a Letter stating that Anglican orders were not valid (I think it was issued in the 1890’s).


20 posted on 09/10/2007 5:42:13 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: frtom

I was somewhat incorrect, it was Pope Leo XIII who issued a letter in 1986 stating that Anglican orders, from the Catholic theological position, are not valid.

Pax Domine


21 posted on 09/10/2007 5:45:09 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: frtom

Ok, I will get this corrrect, It was Pope Leo XIII and the letter was in fact 1896.

Sorry about my goof ups.

Pax Domine


22 posted on 09/10/2007 5:46:38 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: frtom; CTrent1564
FYI: The Catholic Church did recognize Holy Orders of the ECUSP until they started ordaining women.

Not quite right but not quite wrong. The Bull Apostolicae Curae indeed was issued by H.H. Leo XIII in 1896 and held that Anglican orders had been invalid since the change in the words of consecration of bishops instituted by King Edward VI (or, more properly, his radical protestant advisors, since he was 9 or so at the time and had no opinion other than what he was told.)

However, there were talks in the works in the late 60s for a concordat, along the lines of what was being discussed with the Lutherans, including (rumor had it) a revisiting of Apostolicae Curae. But the ordination of women stopped that in its tracks, and the Bishop of New Hampster killed it stone cold dead.

24 posted on 09/10/2007 6:26:43 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: frtom
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38 posted on 09/11/2007 4:54:59 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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