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Transfer of holy relics will be first for region
Sacramento Bee ^ | September 7, 2007 | Jennifer Garza

Posted on 09/08/2007 7:45:49 PM PDT by annalex

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To: vladimir998
Oh, he wants the Orthodox to reciprocate too.

Well, you and John Edwards may both be confident with your ability to channel the thoughts of others, but what specific reciprocation did you expect from the Greek Orthodox parish in Sacramento?

21 posted on 09/09/2007 6:19:51 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

None. I didn’t say anything about any parish in California.


22 posted on 09/10/2007 5:06:20 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
I didn’t say anything about any parish in California.

Why didn't you? They are the ones who received the relics.

Pleaes explain to us how you expect that parish to reciprocate.

23 posted on 09/10/2007 5:22:57 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

You wrote:

“Pleaes explain to us how you expect that parish to reciprocate.”

I didn’t mention any parish so your request makes no sense.


24 posted on 09/10/2007 9:20:59 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
I didn’t mention any parish so your request makes no sense.

Why didn't you? They are the ones who received the relics.

25 posted on 09/10/2007 9:23:40 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

You wrote:

“Why didn’t you? They are the ones who received the relics.”

Because my original point was broader than that. Pay attention.


26 posted on 09/10/2007 9:25:27 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
Perhaps you need to come to the realization that a Greek parish in California has no input on deciding Church ownership in the Ukraine.

Pay attention

Heed your own advice.

27 posted on 09/10/2007 9:29:49 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

You wrote:

“Perhaps you need to come to the realization that a Greek parish in California has no input on deciding Church ownership in the Ukraine.”

Perhaps you need to see the point that once again the Catholic Church is giving while the Orthodox DO NOT GIVE anything back.

“Heed your own advice.”

I do. That’s why I didn’t make your mistake. Try again.


28 posted on 09/10/2007 9:34:31 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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Perhaps you need to see the point that once again the Catholic Church is giving while the Orthodox DO NOT GIVE anything back.

Perhaps the case of the Orthodox being in possession of another Church's proper is not as clear-cut or as simplistic as you make it out to be. The reverse is not true, hence these returns.

29 posted on 09/10/2007 9:47:41 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

You wrote:

“Perhaps the case of the Orthodox being in possession of another Church’s proper is not as clear-cut or as simplistic as you make it out to be. The reverse is not true, hence these returns.”

Or, more likely, just as with dialogue, visiting Russia, ignoring the massacre of the Latins in the late 12th century (so much so that most EOs don’t even know it happened), it is simply a standard way of Orthodox behavior? Yeah, could be. Sometimes I think the Church is Hoshea. And the Orthodox are Gomer.


30 posted on 09/10/2007 3:07:45 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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Sure we are waiting. The tranfer of the relics was a gift. One does not give gifts in expectation of anything reciprocal, and besides, transfer of real estate is in essence a different thing.


31 posted on 09/10/2007 4:43:07 PM PDT by annalex
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...ignoring the massacre of the Latins in the late 12th century...

Or the massacre of the Serbs under the forced conversion program of the murderous Cardinal Stepinac, the patron saint of genocide, in the 20th Century.

But it was the Roman Catholic Pope that apologized about the actions of the Uniates and the military campaigns that lead to their creation, the honesty of which was refreshing!

32 posted on 09/10/2007 5:15:34 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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You wrote:

“Or the massacre of the Serbs under the forced conversion program of the murderous Cardinal Stepinac, the patron saint of genocide, in the 20th Century.”

Stepinac saved Jews and Serbs as both Jews and Serbs attested during and after the war. Also, I don’t know of anyone here who denies that Serbs were massacred. Do you? So your points here are, well, useless. They mean nothing, accomplish nothing and indicate nothing - except that you are very confused.

“But it was the Roman Catholic Pope that apologized about the actions of the Uniates and the military campaigns that lead to their creation, the honesty of which was refreshing!”

Uniates? Uniates massacring Serbs? Are you now claiming Croatians are Uniates? Also, the Pope is Catholic, and not Roman Catholic. Please get a clue.


33 posted on 09/10/2007 5:56:19 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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