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To: DungeonMaster
And you guys say WE are far-flung in our interpretations of Scripture?

So When Mary says, "Behold, from now on (Dawg translation of "apo tou nun") all generations will call me blessed," Jesus would have added, "But, MOM, they'll be wrong!"

I think one of the great things about IHS's teaching is that he often turns things away from the "out there" to the "in here". So the end of the whole Good Samaritan story is," Go and do THOU likewise," and when somebody asks Him about the commandments He says,"What do YOU think?"

So I would go this far with you, that if somebody praises Mary and does not address his own relationship with Jesus and with God, that's perverse. And when somebody praises Mary in the anecdote, He doesn't let him off the hook, but challenges him to deal with his own relationship with God. "Enough about my mother, where are YOU when it comes to obedience?" That's the Jesus I love and admire. What a great teacher!

So it's not so much that "simply being any old Christian (and WHY do we have to bring up my age?)is MORE blessed ...." IMHO It's that "my" blessedness is my business, and comparing it to anyone else's is silly.

But when I rejoice in God's grace to Mary (or to you, for that matter) it's not ducking my relationship with God or handing it over.

But if he says blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it, who has done so more than Mary? (And I would construe Μενουν ... as "No, you dope, HERE's the way to think about blessedness!")

I think people often duck the encounter with God. And yes, one could use devotion to Mary as a way to do that. One could use ANY devotion -- especially when accompanied by a sense that one's prayers are going to get one into heaven -- as a way to avoid that heart-to-heart in which one's own painfully deep neediness, moral and every other kind, meets the penetrating eye of God. To that extent, let all devotions be cast aside if they are "performed" with that attitude.

"Lilies that fester...," as I am fond of saying ...

66 posted on 09/07/2007 10:11:02 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Good post, as usual, but I would take issue with

I would construe Μενουν ... as "No, you dope, HERE's the way to think about blessedness!"

There is no "No". The usual translation is "Yes, rather" both in King James and Douay.

69 posted on 09/07/2007 10:20:14 AM PDT by annalex
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