Posted on 09/01/2007 8:44:09 AM PDT by Ottofire
Like Zell Miller said: It’s called a metaphor, you know what a metaphor is, right? Like when someone is said to be married to their work. We don’t take that as meaning they don’t have a spouse.
If you think it isn’t a metaphor, then you have to toss the definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman and come up with some definition that allows a man to be married to a group of people who believe in him.
Yes, smart-butt, ;) I know what a metaphor is. How do YOU know Christ was speaking metaphorically? How do you know what form the Church will take in eternity?
So Christ is married to a "metaphor?" STILL would not look pure, righteous, or good to be married to a woman. Just sayin'.
And you know what restornu, everything you say is crooked to the core as well, spin spin spin.
I hope you enjoy tit-for-tat slander.
Save your hot air for winter!
You are so vain and into your self!:)
You have a pleasant evening, resty.
The history to which you refer was enacted by the South Park kids as follows: (the "dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb" were sung like they were accompanying drum beats)
Gary Sr.: Well, you remember Martin Harris, the rich man who wrote down what Joseph Smith read out of the hat?
Stan: Yeah.
Gary Sr.: See, after he was done, he took some of the pages of what would become the Book of Mormon home. [Back to the 1800s, night, the large building]
Singers: Martin went home to his wife Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb And showed her pages from the Book of Mormon Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Harris: A-and so Joseph Smith put his head into a hat, a-and read to me what the golden plates said. I wrote it all down and we're gonna publish it into a book.
Mrs. Harris: Martin, how do you know he isn't just making stuff up and pretending he's translating off golden plates?
Singers: Lucy Harris smart smart smart Smart smart smart smart smart
Harris: Why would he make it up?
Singers: Martin Harris dumb dadumb-
Lucy: All right, here. I'm gonna hide these pages. [puts them in a drawer at the bottom end of an armoir] If Joseph Smith really is translating off of golden plates, then he'll be able to do it again. But if Joseph Smith is making it all up, then the new translations will be different from these.
Harris: Okay, fine. I bet he'll have no problem. [puts on his coat and heads out]
Singers: Lucy Harris smart smart smartMartin Harris dumb. So Martin went on back to Smith Said the pages had gone away Smith got mad and told Martin He needed to go pray Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Harris: [upon Smith's return] Look, ah I'm sorry about losin' the pages we worked on, Joe, but I'm ready to write it all down again if you translate from the plates.
Smith: I would love to, Martin, except, I just had a vision. And the Lord said he's very angry with me for letting you take those pages.
Harris: [gasps] He is??
Singers: Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Smith: Yes. He is so mad that he will never let me translate from the plate of Lehi again. He's... we must now translate from the plate of Nephi. So it will be the same basic story, but written a little differently.
Harris: Wow! If God got angry with you, then you must be tellin' the truth.
Singers: Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
Harris: All right, Martin. Let's get to work! [Smith reads from the hat again and dictates to Harris, who writes it all down] [Back to the present, the Marsh house]
Gary Sr.: And that's how it happened.
Kids: Yeah! All right! [the Marshes sit there without a word to say] Stan: ...Wait. Mormons actually know this story and they still believe Joseph Smith was a prophet?
I am a little more incline to accept wiki on things of no human topic.
When it get to things on people especially on LDS there are these Johnny come lately sites that where its we say vs. they say.
The Lord commanded Joseph and the LDS to keep journals. LDS Journal is accessible, these new anti LDS hit sites can say anything was in a journal, and I would have no way to know for sure in this modern day advent.
You how MHG accuses JS of rewriting the Bible at Least for me I know Joseph was a prophet and a rest orator.
These other guys are Johnny come lately in the 20th century!
“You are so vain and into your self!:)”
Anyone who calls me a crook better be ready to put up some real facts. IF I were a real crook the way my Mormon ex-partner was, I would have had to threaten to beat you up, tried to steal $300,000 from your mother, withheld the books of a business and never showed a profit, and cheated the IRS.
What I think instead is that you are mad at me for showing how Mormons Always defend their own, no matter how crooked your brethren might be. It started with Joseph Smith, but I have now more than enough material on Harry Reid to show he is being protected much the same way. So if you want to call me a crook, I will call you something worse, an enabler of crooks.
You have yet to provide a single quote of mine that you can show is a verifiable falsehood - put up or shut up. And I don’t even resort to seer stones or a burning in the bosom to prove my points.
“How do YOU know Christ was speaking metaphorically?”
Because marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman.
“How do you know what form the Church will take in eternity?”
His church is the group of people following him. Are you really suggesting that those who follow Christ will cease to exist as individuals and become combined into a single female persona? Is that the kind of afterlife you look forward to?
“So Christ is married to a “metaphor?””
No, the marriage relationship is a metaphor for the relationship Christ has with the Church. Saying it is a literal marriage that precludes marriage to any woman would require a radical alteration of the definition of marriage.
Brilliant episode but I found this to be the most telling part
>>Gary: Listen, I just wanted to let you know you don’t have to worry about me tryin’ to be your friend anymore.
Stan: I don’t?
Gary: Look, maybe us Mormons do believe in crazy stories that make absolutely no sense, and maybe Joseph Smith did make it all up, but I have a great life. and a great family, and I have the Book of Mormon to thank for that. The truth is, I don’t care if Joseph Smith made it all up, because what the church teaches now is loving your family, being nice and helping people. And even though people in this town might think that’s stupid, I still choose to believe in it. All I ever did was try to be your friend, Stan, but you’re so high and mighty you couldn’t look past my religion and just be my friend back. You’ve got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls. [turns around and walks off. All four boys just look at him in wonder, even Cartman.]
Cartman: Damn, that kid is cool, huh? <<
I have no idea what it is but you are so small minded to blanket every LDS in your vendetta!
An if you call or imply Reno232 who you don’t know only because they are are LDS those names I will see you as being a smooth operator.
In life I have learn it is best to move on or you will miss some real neat things and, because you allowed your self to be stuck back in the pass!
Maybe it is because you are from Nevada and reno232 reminds you?
At times I thought you were in you 30’s or early 40’s but you must be from an older school.
Gosh when you can’t do any things about a situation, let go and let God!
In the mean time be ready to receive other opportunities and blessings!
Humor making fun of, is one thing, but profanity just shows where that spite was conjured up from!
I don’t know anything about Reno232 one way or the other.
I’m just asking you to cut out the name calling and I’ll be happy to do the same.
Shouldn’t the title be “How much in child support was Jesus hit up for?”
Oh boy this one eye is driving me crazy I apologize I can’t fine that post so it was not you!
Shouldn’t the title be “How much in child support was Jesus hit up for?”
You got that problem bvw?:)
My problem is too many straight men feeding me set-up lines. Except as an observer of those in the straights of serial polygamy, I do not, thankfully, have aforesaid problem.
Well I don’t think Jesus had that problem so why ask a stupid question!
And that’s teh most important part—they live exemplary lives. Husbands are faithful, kids like being with their parents, God and family come first and they are loyal Americans. But the media is going to pulverize the religious tenets thereby minimizing at best the good behavior. It is no coincidence that Mitt Romney is on the scene and “Big Love” and “September Dawn” are on the screen.
It was a humorous quip. Can I ask you why you are not LOL’ing?
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