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To: Iscool
"God gave physical life by sending manna to eat...Jesus gave spiritual life by dying on the cross...You don't get spiritual life by eating and drinking...You get it by believing..."

So you don't believe what Jesus said in the Bible?? "This IS my Body". "This IS my Blood.?" " And yet, even at THAT table, those items retained the appearance of bread and wine. I think the Apostles would have noticed and commented on whether the Passover meal they were eating suddenly changed substance on the macro level.

To put it bluntly--you either believe what the Bible says, or you don't. Protestants have built huge sand-castles that they claim provide "positive proof" of various doctrines using statements MUCH more abiguous and less frequent than these.

110 posted on 09/02/2007 3:29:09 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog
So you don't believe what Jesus said in the Bible?? "This IS my Body". "This IS my Blood.?"

I certainly do believe Jesus said that...

Joh 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Was Jesus passing around a ladle of water from the bucket he was carrying???

Jesus never mentioned at the Last Supper that he had changed anything into real flesh and real wine...He never told the Apostles or anyone else to change the juice and bread into flesh and blood for future religious ceremonies...When Jesus said "Do this" (in remembrance of me), he was not talking about a mysterious alteration of sub-atomic matter...

Jesus was preparing to die...And He was preparing his disciples to carry on after he was gone...All that would be left physically would be an empty tomb...

Jesus wanted to make sure the disciples remembered his Crucifixion and told them that when they come together to drink wine and eat bread, to put their minds on His Crucifixion when they did...

112 posted on 09/02/2007 4:13:23 AM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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