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To: TexConfederate1861
Yes, I know that argument about Rome being the imperial city. But your post #16 said flatly that, Peter being first at Antioch, Rome’s claim is “blown out of the water.” There is an inconsistency here that I’d like better fleshed-out. Which is it? Rome is, for the sake of argument, (merely) primus inter pares because Peter was there, or Antioch should have been primus inter pares on the grounds that Peter was there first? If Antioch’s claims blow those of Rome out of the water, why does Orthodoxy (I assume you’re speaking for Orthodoxy here) even pay minimal lip service to the prerogatives of the Bishop of Rome?
22 posted on 08/21/2007 6:40:04 PM PDT by magisterium
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To: magisterium

OK:

Let me break it down for you.

1. Antioch, by ROMAN belief should have primacy, as St. Peter was Bishop THERE first. (NOT ORTHODOX)

2. Primus inter pares was given to the Bishop of the IMPERIAL CITY. Rome was the Imperial Capitol of the empire, so that title had nothing to do with Rome’s claim of primacy by virtue of Peter. Later, the title was given to the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople.

Last, but not least, my point in all this is that the doctrine of Peterine Primacy is an invention of the Western, or Latin Church, mainly based on the spurious writings of Clement, and that other than being the “First among EQUALS”, there was no universal authority conferred on Rome.


31 posted on 08/21/2007 8:01:10 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (The Orthodox Church....preserving the Truth since 1054 AD!)
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