And if I didn't feel intimidated by the fact that my parish completed its "renovation" of the lower church just a week or two before the motu proprio (which was rumored for a good two years before its issuance) came out -- they got rid of the old altar, the communion rail and the pews, attempting to salve the more traditional among us by keeping the old altar stone and getting a few traditional-looking windows from two churches that had been closed. Also, the new wainscoting was made of the wood from the old pews. As the Dems say, the timing of this is suspicious.
I feel like I got a "No!" (more than that -- a smackdown) before I even asked, a slap in the face.
I feel like I got a "No!" (more than that -- a smackdown) before I even asked, a slap in the face.
Your "feelings" don't count! (that is someone 'playing' with your mind)
You didn't get a "No!", you haven't even asked yet. (can you get some one else to ask?)
The way I read this, understand this, and get from reading what other people are writing is "... if there is a group of people that want the Tridentine Mass, the priest (priest, bishop, Church) has to come through for them..."
What/how many is "a group?"
I think Fr. Zuhlsdorf and a few others are going to look into that.
Do not be intimidated, that is exactly what they want.
sample: "You are really asking a lot from your parish... We try very hard to accommodate everyone here. We offer the people of this parish Mass in English, Spanish, Filipino two Saturdays a month, and Vietnamese two Sundays a month, and Signed for the Deaf at Christmas and Easter. As the members of this parish are aware we have just <<completed its "renovation" of the lower church just a week or two before the motu proprio (which was rumored for a good two years before its issuance) came out -- they got rid of the old altar, the communion rail and the pews, attempting to salve the more traditional among us by keeping the old altar stone and getting a few traditional-looking windows from two churches that had been closed. Also, the new wainscoting was made of the wood from the old pews.>>"
And now you want the langauge of the Church!?!?!
Do you have a group? If the answer is no, then I am safe and as the shepherd of this flock I am off the hook. If the answer is yes, then I'd better start looking into a way to help your group. If I do not help your group, you might write to Rome about this... Oh my! I heard that the Pope will be in the U.S.A. next year -- don't want to have him stop by for Latin Mass with coffee & doughnuts after Mass.
I will have to try to intimidate these people as the bishop has intimidated me... But these people might join together and car-pool over to St. _____ for Latin Mass (I heard it was very nice). Then there goes my weekly collection ($$.$$). Oh my -- the people win again... I'm going to have to help them. (I want their money $$.$$)
Don't let any one intimidate you.
If your group wants that Latin Mass, go step by step the exact way that Rome said to do it.
They have to try to help you/per Rome (at least that's the way I read it)
(I don't think that they will push it that far, but they want to know if you will push it that far.)
You might recall, it was only just a few years ago that you, me, our families and friends had a high degree of respect for any 'religious' person (Priest, Brother, Monk, Sister, Nun). They lost it -- they did it to themselves (as a group). Now they will have to earn respect -- just like you and me.