Posted on 08/13/2007 4:37:16 PM PDT by NYer
No other confession is treated that way on FR. Mormons aren't. Jews certainly aren't.
Isn't this making it personal?
Wa wa wa. Would you like some cheese? You're soooooo persecuted.
I guess you don’t see any point in fairness, huh? Some animals are more equal than others?
Go look at the crater where 2 fine buildings once stood.
You’ll learn all you need to know about Eyeslime.
When I warn anyone on thread, all participants should consider themselves warned.
Thank you.
Utterly false and slanderous.
Since when is calling ME a liar NOT “personal”?
Can you explain THAT?
I’ve repeatedly posted the common ground that Muslims and Catholics have - both share the false prophetess Fatima and elevate Mary as someone to also pray to and worship. It comes from Catholic sources! Is it against the rules at FR to state you don’t believe in praying to and worshiping Mary or Fatima? I personally find it offensive that Campion isn't warned to stop calling people a liar. WHY is that allowed?
Thank you.
This thread is now on zero tolerance.
Where in heaven's name do you get that? Because the Church has said Our Lady's apparitions at a place in Portugal called Fatima, we supposedly honor a "false prophetess Fatima"? The only things wrong about the woman named Fatima is that she was a Muslim and that she was the daughter of Muhammed (though that's no fault of her own).
I don't pray to, worship, venerate, talk to, study, admire, or have anything whatsoever to do with Mohammed's daughter, Fatima.
One more time.
I don't pray to, worship, venerate, talk to, study, admire, or have anything whatsoever to do with Mohammed's daughter, Fatima.
To state that Catholics generally (thereby including me) do that, is to state a falsehood.
Where in your Bible does it say that it's okay to do that?
Perhaps you need to explain that to Catholics that do. One even has the name of Fatima on FR. It is a general belief amongst Catholics - even if you don’t buy into it.
“Where in heaven’s name do you get that? Because the Church has said Our Lady’s apparitions at a place in Portugal called Fatima, we supposedly honor a “false prophetess Fatima”? The only things wrong about the woman named Fatima is that she was a Muslim and that she was the daughter of Muhammed (though that’s no fault of her own).”
Perhaps you need to read the Catholic sources I posted. It is VERY common for Catholics to pray to and worship both Fatima and Mary. Also this is being used as a bridge to Muslims - Mary and Fatima. You don’t have to like it but it is true.
I don't know of any.
One even has the name of Fatima on FR.
Her screenname refers to the place (town, city, neighborhood) in Portugal, not to a person.
How many times do we have to keep saying that?
The poster calumnied Catholics and the Catholic Church by stating that we worship the daughter of Mohammed, Fatima.
“Catholics and Muslims both worship the false prophetess Fatima and Mary.”
The poster has utterly failed in his/her posts to demonstrate that even MUSLIMS worship Fatima. The rest of the poster’s arguments also fail to show:
- that Catholics worship Mary;
- that Catholics take particular notice of Mohammed’s daughter, Fatima
The poster has confused, for all to see, the fact that one of our Lady’s appearances happened at a TOWN named “Fatima” with the idea that Catholics worship the PERSON named “Fatima.”
I speculate that the poster makes this confusion because he/she sees that Catholics see that this tie could draw MUSLIMS closer to Catholicism. This doesn’t actually say anything about Catholic belief.
Of course, the whole falsehood is even more laughable when one considers the absolute monism of Islam. As a result of the influence of Arianism, Muslims deny that man is made in the image and likeness of God. Rather, they believe that God is wholly other from man, entirely and completely transcendant. Thus, for them, the worship of ANY human being (including Jesus) is considered blasphemy and idolatry. It is not possible, in Islam, for ANY human being to have a divine nature.
That’s kinda one of the reasons they like to cut our heads off - that we worship a man in the person of Jesus.
Thus, although Muslims revere their prophets, including Mohammed and Jesus, and although they look highly on Mary, the mother of Jesus, and highly (though not quite as highly) on Fatima, to accuse them of worship of any of these folks is to entirely misunderstand the whole point of Islam.
Yet, these vile, anti-Catholic, Chick-like posts haven’t been pulled down, and the poster continues to post the falsehoods with impunity.
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The Catholic sources you posted do not tell Catholics to pray to or worship Mohammed's daughter. Did you even read them?
Allah was a pagan moon god that Muslims later claimed was the original God to find validity in their death cult religion of peace.
They worship a crazy god of war and vengeance.
Jews and Christians are peaceful when they worship their ONE GOD!
Big difference IMO.
The Bible says to do a whole bunch of things; I have seen few of them demonstrated in your posts.
We do not worship Mary. We do not worship anyone named Fatima.
We do, however, take evangelization of the world a tad more seriously than some.
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