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To: NYer

That misreading of scripture has converted and kept many people in the Catholic church. But if God had intended to save him, he would have understood the actual meaning of the words of Christ and he would have known they, like most of the teachings of Christ were hidden from the unsaved and not literal.

The Last Supper was actually the Last “passover “ and the 1st Lords Supper.

Gods intervention to end the slavery of His people by the Egyptians held many types that pointed to Christ’s death .

We see as a prime example the final plague God brought on the Egyptians.
Every 1st born was to die at the hand of Gods avenging angel.

God gave specific orders on how the jews were to be protected from that sword of death.

They were to have a perfect Lamb and to slaughter him. They were to spread the blood of that lamb over the drop posts ( in a shape similar to a cross) When the angel saw that blood he would pass over that home and the people inside were preserved from the plague.

God gave specific instructions on how to eat that Lamb, that passover meal was to be a ritual that would be celebrated in remembrance of the grace and salvation of God for His people.

That meal prefigured Christ, on the night Jesus was betrayed they celebrated the meal that prefigured His coming .

Christ OUR PASSOVER LAMB would be slain, and many would be saved that were under His blood.

There was a piece of matzo broken into 3 parts.

One pieces was broken and the hidden piece it was wrapped in white linen ( as Christ dead body was in the tomb ) it is called the aphikomen

When the meal is finished the host breaks off olive-size pieces of matzoh from the aphikomen and distributes them to all. They each eat it, in a reverent manner. Sometimes there is a blessing, “In memory of the Passover sacrifice, eaten after one is sated.”

It was at THIS point during the Last Supper Jesus broke the bread and passed bits to His disciples; however, Jesus added the significant words given in Luke 22:19),

Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake [it], and gave unto them, saying,[b] This is my body which is given for you:[/b] this do in remembrance of me.

The symbolic broken matzo wrapped in white linen was the symbolic body of Christ revealed in the passover meal. Jesus was revealing the prophetic nature of the passover and the passover meal.

Consider that Jews had a probation against the eating of blood, yet not one disciple asked Jesus what He meant. That is because they understood when he took the APHIKOMEN into his hands, this broken Matzo that had been hidden in a linen wrap was symbolic of HIM.

Matzo has no leaven, leaven is a sign of sin. Jesus was sinless.
The Matzo had been broken as His body would be broken .

It was wrapped in linen as He would be and be hidden for a time.

This is the exact spot where Jesus proclaimed “This is my body which is given for you.” as he held that broken Matzo

The next step of the ritual meal is drinking from the wine-goblet called the “Cup of Redemption.” That’s when Jesus said,

“This cup is the New Testament (Covenant ) in my blood, which is shed for you.”

The Passover meal was a REMEMBRANCE of the deliverance of the Jews. Just as the passover was a type of Christ so is the Passover meal.

Jesus was telling them this, and He was telling them NOW instead of the remembrance of the passover, their eyes were opened and the meaning revealed NOW they were to do the mean in remembrance of HIM, of His blood, the blood of the Lamb of God.

As He held that bread He was revealing the mystery that the symbolism held.

Think of the words the apostles used

1Cr 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake [it], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

The broken matzo was a type of Christ, who’s body would be broken for them.

Then in the passover tradition

The host now takes the third cup of wine, “the cup of redemption,” or “the cup of blessing,” and offers the main table grace blessing. (In Jewish tradition, the main blessing comes after the meal.) Then they all drink from the third cup.

Luke 22:20,

“Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, ‘This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you’.”

Here is what the apostles and disciples said at the Lords table

1Cr 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

The were recalling “remembering” the PASSOVER ritual. THEY understood that Jesus was revealing a spiritual truth about the passover being a prophetic meal that prefigured HIM.

The Passover was fulfilled on the day that Christ died, and so from that day forward that meal not longer held a prophetic promise of a future savior, but it was now a remembrance of the completed work of salvation at the cross.


7 posted on 08/08/2007 6:47:14 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: ears_to_hear

That’s a great read. Thx.


9 posted on 08/08/2007 7:04:42 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: ears_to_hear
Jesus just instituted a bunch of new symbols to replace the old ones, huh? What a waste of his time! Guess the author of Hebrews didn't get the memo.

That's the (gnosticism alert!) "special knowledge" that's hidden from the "unsaved" who don't have the magic Protestant glasses to see that Jesus says one thing and means another.

Unfortunately for you, nobody else had those Protestant glasses for the first 800 years of Christian history, including men who learned their Christianity at the feet of the apostles. Was Ignatius of Antioch, who learned the Gospel from Peter and Paul, and who wrote, as he traveled to his martyrdom, that we ought not to even speak of heretics who deny that the Eucharist is the flesh of Christ which was crucified for us ... was he among the "unsaved"?

22 posted on 08/09/2007 7:55:05 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: ears_to_hear

Nice polemic. ;)


27 posted on 08/15/2007 12:35:28 PM PDT by Charles07
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To: ears_to_hear

Hmph.

I just noticed this:

“But if God had intended to save him, he would have understood the actual meaning of the words of Christ and he would have known they, like most of the teachings of Christ were hidden from the unsaved and not literal.”

You must believe in predestination.

The above statement is supported nowhere in Scripture; if anything, it shows the opposite.

Moreover, God gave us free will. If we were not free to choose then I propose the following:

“God is immoral, Jesus was a liar and Christianity is a false religion.”

And here is why:

God is not evil.

Evil is the absence of obedience to God.

Free will is a choice to obey or not obey

Man chose evil.

So it follows that if there is no free will, then we are all created puppets of God, and God is evil.

Our Lord came for the sinners, Brother.


42 posted on 08/16/2007 10:52:19 AM PDT by Charles07
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To: ears_to_hear; Campion

“...like most of the teachings of Christ were hidden from the unsaved and not literal”

As campion says in post #22: “gnostisism alert”

To speak of “hidden knowledge” being understood only by some is the heresy of gnosticism.


43 posted on 08/16/2007 11:05:15 AM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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