Posted on 08/01/2007 11:19:04 AM PDT by Salvation
Seems like Christ had messages for the Pharisees and Saduccees about getting too much into following the rules, didn’t he?
He doesn’t recommend the RSV for Mass — just noting that it is the best English translation. He also notes there is a Catholic edition of RSV.
We follow these rules because left to the individual priest or bishop, they may change it to their whim. The liturgy belongs to the whole Church, and therefore no one should be changing it. That’s the theory, at least. As you can see, individuals still like to make their mark rather than follow rules. Obedience is almost a foreign concept at times.
Announcements either just before or just after the homily have been made in the Old Rite since my earliest memories—which would be in the mid-1950’s.
No problem. Not illicit by ANY means.
I know it’s repetitive, but some folks need reminding. Thanks!
Technically, the sermon/homily is not part of the Mass.
7 out of 10 of these happen every week at our Parish.
I most often go to a Novus Ordo parish in the poor part of town.
The only thing I see routinely is holding hands during Our Father, not by all, but by about half the parishioners. I never noticed anything else.
About half also receive in the hand, others on the tongue. Only a few bow during “by the Power of the Holy Spirit”.
We also have a Latin Mass on one weekday. About 20 people show up.
>>Concluding Rites
* Brief announcements may then be made (90a, 166, 184). No announcements should be made prior to this time, e.g., in the period of silence after Holy Communion.<<
This is from the USCCB and governs the N.O. Mass. In my parish, all announcements are made BEFORE Mass.
For the TLM, as the Mass is in Latin, the Gospel (repeat of the Latin Gospel already read), Homily and then brief announcements (in English) are made before continuing. The rest of the Mass from then on is in Latin, of course.
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I bet there would be more people attending the Latin mass if it was on the weekend!
My daughters refuse to receive in the hand, even in other parishes. We bow during the creed and strike our chests during “that I have sinned through my own fault.” I think that’s a hold over from the Old Mass.
And no matter what parish we are in, we pray the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel at the end. Some parishes need it more than others!
Funny thing, the LifeTeen parish we were at this weekend WAS St. Michael the Archangel’s. No prayer at the end. Hmmmmm.
I am pretty sure we’ll have a Latin Mass now that it is encouraged.
None of these occur at my Parish. The Parishioners DO GLARE at those poor unfortunate visitors who either perform the “Orans” posture or try to grab hands during the Pater Noster. It may be un-Christian, but these folks are “orthodox;” I doubt if that will change unless the Pastor is removed. At age 80, that could happen but he can outrun even the altar boys.
I attend a NO Parish on Sunday for the most part. I am one of the few that take communion on the tongue. I am also one of the few that bow during the creed. Very little of what goes on at our parish on Sundays can be recognized as ‘Catholic’.
Before the Mass would be best; unfortunately, 30% of the congregation would miss them.
Thanks for clarifying! I can see that there is not a natural place to fit them in at the end, in that form. My feeling about either NO or TLM, why have announcements at all, unless it’s something important or imminent? That’s what the bulletin is for, and I always find it seems to distract from the reverential tone of things. I guess alot of that has to do with how the priest handles it.
That is very interesting, I did not know there were any Catholic parishes left that were so “orthodox” (just judging from the many I’ve been to in various parts of the country). Yours is a real Catholic parish, not SSPX? Has this pastor been there a long time and “catechized” the congregation so that there is more understanding? Or has the parish just traditionally always been like that, somehow did not get corrupted in the 1970-80’s? God bless your pastor, he’s the same age as the Holy Father and I hope they both keep going strong for a long time!
Hugs are too much! But what about people who cannot stick with the simple “peace be with you” but have to come up with their own clever variations, like “God’s light be upon you” or “Peace and love!”
This is a Novus Ordo Parish that is in kind of a backwater. It is not easy to get to. Yes, the Pastor has been Pastor for 30 years and yes, he catechized all of the current parishioners. We get a new crop of people in each year who are fleeing from this or that. It is great to see them return each Sunday. Not everybody wants “orthodoxy.” So, the Parish is small. Still, the hymns are old, about one-third of the congregation kneels for communion, we still use the Sanctus bells, and the Church is ideal if one were to contemplate one for use as a regional TLM Chapel (central altar; holes for returning the altar rails hidden by carpet, etc.). You should see the crowd at the noon Mass on the first Sunday of the month; confession is heard after that Mass but on the first Sunday, the lines go halfway down the Church for both priests.
Hey, that is a very good point about “participation”!
I like what Bishop Bruskewitz explained on EWTN (during their Summorum Pontificum special) that “particpation” does not really mean singing, or whatever external actions an individual can do, but the “interior” participation is what’s important, joining in the intentions and purpose of the prayers and the Mass, thinking and assimilating and uniting oneself spiritually with the words, gestures and meaning of the priest’s actions, etc.
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