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To: sirchtruth
“Concering the bible as the provable true Word of God, all you have to do is look at what Christ Jesus himself quoted.”(sirchtruth)

I think you should have copied the rest of the statement which was “(Quoting the Bible to prove it’s own authenticity really proves nothing.)”

What your answer is composed of, is “I believe it.”
He says, “How do you know it’s true?”
You say, “It says it’s true.”

Presumably, if somebody wrote it as a lie, the author would also say, “This is true.”

The point you apparently are missing is this: If you read the Bible from cover to cover, it is an amazing story. Matter of fact, one could say it’s an unbelievable story, as some atheists do say. An unseen God creates the world (as opposed to what atheist “scientists” say), He created one man and one woman, who’s children are good and bad, and destroys the world when they get too bad, with a flood. He guided certain men and picked one insignificant tribe to call His People, and when they disobeyed Him, were sold into slavery, and rescued by a series of unbelievable miracles, and told them He was coming in person. Often, He sends beings with no physical bodies to interact with these men. He had his Only Begotten Son, born of a virgin (talk about unbelievable!), and came to suffer a horrible death, just to make up for the first man and woman eating an apple. And He picked 12 followers, one of which was a traitor, and founded what He called His Church and told them, He would be with them til the end of the world.

If I just fell off the turnip truck, I wouldn’t believe the story-it would be great fiction. Fortunately, for me, that’s not how it happened. When He was here, He founded a Church, and told everybody to listen to His Church. Not read His book, mind you, because there was no book. Matter of fact, there was no book for another 400 years, when it was assembled by the bishops of the Catholic Church, which Christ founded, in the year 399 AD, and was approved infallibly by the pope. The Catholic Church told all men of the world that that collection of books (the canon of the Bible) was the inerrant Word of God. That’s the only reason I have to believe the Bible is true. Because it was declared so by the Catholic Church.

What wiley was asking you is this: If you deny Christ founded the One True Church, the Catholic Church, why do you believe in the Bible, and why would you claim it is the Word of God, when the Bible is an official document of the Church you deny? Further, how can the Bible be a superior "...final authority of Christ's truth,..." when the only reason the Bible exists, is because the Catholic Church authored and declared it to be true by It's (the Church's)authority?-Glenn

62 posted on 07/31/2007 8:19:20 PM PDT by GlennD
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To: GlennD
I think you should have copied the rest of the statement which was “(Quoting the Bible to prove it’s own authenticity really proves nothing.)”

As with this and the rest of your comments you're not even close to the point I was making. The bible is provable not because the Catholic Church has an authority to declare it, it is true because you can look at history, you can investigate the text itself, and prove the authenticy of it's authority...and true author.

157 posted on 08/02/2007 5:11:10 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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