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To: TheRiverNile; tbpiper
if the Apocrypha are inspired books, then Purgatory is an interpretation that could be garnered from the text we just read.

Of course, and it makes perfect sense. For example: In Matt. 12:32 – Jesus says, “And anyone who says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but no one who speaks against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven either in this world or in the next.” Jesus thus clearly provides that there is forgiveness after death. The phrase “in the next” (from the Greek “en to mellonti”) generally refers to the afterlife (see, for example, Mark 10.30; Luke 18.30; 20.34-35; Eph. 1.21 for similar language). Forgiveness is not necessary in heaven, and there is no forgiveness in hell. This proves that there is another state after death, and the Church for 2,000 years has called this state purgatory.

18 posted on 07/27/2007 5:20:28 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
if the Apocrypha are inspired books

Therein lies the rub.

21 posted on 07/27/2007 6:09:14 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: NYer
This proves that there is another state after death,

I beg to differ. The phrase in this world or in the next is to emphasize the fact that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is absolutely unforgivable not to imply that there is a holding pattern for the not-quite-holy-enough to finally get their spiritual act together.

and the Church for 2,000 years has called this state purgatory

The early church started out preaching the shed blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sin. That's what Jesus talked about. At the last supper, I'm sure he didn't say, "...and if My body and blood aren't quite good enough, there's always purgatory..."

By the way, how does one get out of purgatory?

22 posted on 07/27/2007 6:40:46 PM PDT by tbpiper
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