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To: tantiboh

Do you get nosebleeds way up there on your righteous perch?


570 posted on 07/29/2007 6:13:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: MHGinTN

~”Do you get nosebleeds way up there on your righteous perch?”~

From time to time. But, then, I do live in Denver, and I suspect I’ve inherited my mother’s hypertension.

Seriously, MHG, we go in circles. We accuse each other of the same things.

But, you see, I’m perfectly happy to back down. I am on the defensive. I have NEVER EVER posted ANYTHING on these forums calculated to tear down your faith. There may be isolated examples, but I can’t think of any LDS FReeper who has, either. I think your religious beliefs are incorrect, and I make no bones about that; but if that’s how you want to believe, I’m not going to try and stop you. On the contrary, I’m most likely to encourage you on your spiritual path.

On the other hand, my cohorts and I have been on the receiving end of every attack against our faith that can be imagined, all in the stinking rotten sheepskin disguise of “concern for our souls.” Don’t get me wrong; my personal spiritual growth has been tremendous, so I’m not complaining. What I’m doing is pointing out the competing standards.

Mormons are on the defensive. And we plan to remain so. The aggressors in this idealogical war are our detractors. It’s our holy men who are being vilified; it’s our sacred beliefs that are being ridiculed; it’s our cherished practices that are being lampooned; and it’s our members who are being disqualified by some as worthy candidates for the highest levels of leadership, regardless of demonstrable qualification. Mormonism would barely be discussed on these forums if our detractors didn’t insist on bringing our “evils” to the light of day. And the discussions would be much less cantankerous if those “evils” being “exposed” weren’t so often such blatant misrepresentations and outright falsehoods.

I’ve decided on this thread, though, to call a spade a spade. I can’t help it of you perceive that to be a “righteous perch.”

I would remind you that you’re the one who called the end to our “truce.” The ironic thing is that, while you accuse us of having “this nasty little streak of ‘if you won’t let me make the rules and define your Christianity, I’ll tear it to shreds and spit on it, then march proudly back into my godly temple,’” if you were to leave Mormonism alone, you would never hear from me on the topic of religion again.

So who’s really suffering from the nosebleeds?


572 posted on 07/29/2007 6:46:27 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: MHGinTN

http://speeches-files.byu.edu/freefiles/provider2/type2/Barker_Margaret_2003.mp3

Oh my! Don’t listen! You may be insulted! Nevermind those non-Mormon scholars if their work supports an idea outside of the orthodoxy!


576 posted on 07/29/2007 6:54:59 PM PDT by nowandlater (Ron Paul....doing the job Americans, er, McCain won't, er, can't do--Ron has more COH LOL!)
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