The logical flaw we are facing here is that you think we view our leaders as infallible. When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, he is speaking scripture. We have the right to approach the Lord and confirm it as revelation; but it is prophecy, and should be treated as such. And I challenge you to find a bona fide revelation from an LDS President that has been objectively and conclusively proven wrong.
But our leaders are men, too, with all the attendant limitations. That means they have opinions, and sometimes those opinions are wrong. The early leaders were particularly free with their opinions.
That doesn’t make them false prophets. That makes them wrong men. And it is an invalid metric by which to disqualify a prophet from legitimacy, even by Biblical standards. The Bible is rife with examples of prophets who made human error. That doesn’t mean their prophecies are any less valuable or true.
That doesn’t make them false prophets. That makes them wrong men. And it is an invalid metric by which to disqualify a prophet from legitimacy, even by Biblical standards.
Wow! can you put any of this into plain English?
The Bible is rife with examples of prophets who made human error. That doesn’t mean their prophecies are any less valuable or true.
I would like to know HOW it is that ONLY you mormons actually have the inside track as to just what is valid and true and the rest of us have to go through all this reasearch and HTM posting for nothing just to have you call it lies?
Is there another secret, sacred ritual that gives you the power of divination? Perhaps handed down with the keys of the Priesthood?
Elsie asks and asks for explanations and never gets an answer, MHG posts a perfectly visible contradiction, and the response is always the same! Colorcountry and I post examples of personal experience, and doctrines we have personally seen practiced, but it's all lies! Or crickets chirping!
And the answer is always the same, It is SO, because WE say it is SO!
To use y'all's favorite expression, SHEESH!