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Posted on 07/26/2007 5:03:33 PM PDT by tantiboh
Of course, bigotry is what some of us LDS organization members say is anything that does not totally agree with what we say is our beliefs.
There IS no middle ground!
--MormonDude
Which also means: "There is a lack of basic respect in LDS organizatuion members comments as well."
--MormonDude(Didn't wanna be left out.)
Oh???
It sure did not appear much different than the previous 750 posts!
Id far rather bear my testimony of the truth of the LDS Church face-to-face.
Is this why no one has responded to the fact that your Temple ceremonies have no basis found in your Scripture?
Oh it starts just find. When you find your feet in the fire, you abandon the thread.
Many times your questions and comments are worded in an insulting manner.
That's because you feel that any in depth questioning is insulting.
Dang!
I don't know!
(Things that make ya go... HMMmm...)
Ouch!
She better put some ice on that!
Yeah, I probably could, but that stuff is verbotten now that we are playing nice.
Not much, obviously. How about Baptist? Or Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist, or 7th-Day Adventist?
I must be really stretching the meaning of “seasoned” when I suggest it refers to flavor in context. Do you own a dictionary? If not, might I suggest http://www.dictionary.com?
Sounds like you get a lot of teaching and it's not all cut and dried.
Like others have noted before; it's not the 99% that separates us, but the 1%.
Why don’t you just give me an example of a message, first plain and then seasoned with salt so I can understand where you are coming from. Okay?
So the folks who came later, and did not actually talk to Jesus, had a better feel for what he said than the folks who did talk to him, or at least to those who did?
Who gets to define heresy is kind of key to the issue of how scripture is interpreted, isn’t it?
Oh well, God will set us all straight one of these days.
“Why dont you just give me an example of a message, first plain and then seasoned with salt so I can understand where you are coming from. Okay?”
Perhaps after you tell my why you chose to interpret it to mean rubbing salt in wounds.
“We disagree then.
You may not have all your questions answered - you never will, but we know that it DOES contain ‘all you need’.”
We disagree, then. If the Bible is all you have, it can lead you to salvation. That is a point I won’t argue. Supplementing it with the Book of Mormon and our other scriptures does help. There are things that I have believed all my life that are confirmed in various Mormon scripture that you might disagree with because all you have is the Bible, and it does not directly address those things. I’d like for you to believe those things, but I’m not going to try to force you to it. I am content to tell you what I believe, and let you test it as you will. God will sort it all out later.
I never did interpret it that way, I said salt burns in open wounds, if you didn't have any wounds it would not burn. Have you ever has a salt sea scrub - - they are fantastic unless you have an open wound somewhere, then it burns and stings like all get-out. Now please give me an example of a plain message, and then the message seasoned with salt. Not honey, mind you, but salt.
30% - 61% Say they wont vote for a mormon Placemarker
Run, Forrest, run!!
Yesterday there was a poll posted on FR that said Romney’s support with Evangelicals is in the single digits. I wonder how low?
Did anyone catch that poll.
Must be one of those wild swings in thought that can happen then, since you cited Paul thusly:
“In Colossians 4:6 Paul tells us that we are to present our message with grace, seasoned with salt.”
I’ve never had a salt scrub, but I lived near the sea for much of my early life, so I have had salt in wounds before. Walking on the beach, in Southern Cal, you can cut yourself on a lot of stuff. Walking in the water cleaned out the cuts, and (at that time, anyway) prevented infection.
“Now please give me an example of a plain message, and then the message seasoned with salt. Not honey, mind you, but salt.”
For examples:
Unseasoned
“I’m right, and you’re wrong, get used to it. The Book of Mormon is scripture, and is as important as the Bible.”
Pretty blunt, and liable to annoy someone into ignoring everything else you ever say, even if what you say is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I’ve heard a bit of that myself, and put those folks on ignore. That is one of the reasons I was 40 before I joined the Church.
Seasoned
“The Book of Mormon is true. Read it, study it, compare it to the Bible, and pray to know the truth about it, like I did, and see for yourself.
Much more savory, and not nearly so blunt. Much more likely to at least leave the person willing to listen to you in the future.
I spent a year of 12-hour work shifts with one of the unseasoned ones, back in the early 80’s at Diyarbakir AS, Turkey. The guy who actually got to baptize me was a lot better at telling me how it affected him, and how it could affect me if I would try. So I did, and the rest is history.
I don’t do Honey very well, so I wouldn’t even try. I just try not to be the blunt SOB I used to be. Funny thing about the guy in Diyarbakir was that our personalities and social skills were about on par with one another back then.
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