[GlennD]

“OK, “given wings”. You figure she was furnished a helicopter? You still haven’t explained the dragon. I don’t believe the Catholic church can credibly pick which symbol to consider real with any credibility when that sole pick supports a notion found nowhere in the rest of the New Testament. “(WT)

I don’t explain the Bible, especially the Apocalypse. I said, I don’t know, and far as I know, it could be a helicopter. The dragon is usually Satan. Nonetheless, you’ve already said that you don’t believe that stuff. It’s not part of the Gospels that the Catholic Church gave you. I realize that the Catholic Church is too darn stupid to figure it out (including Sts Augustine, Aquinias, etc) and we need to listen to folks who change what they read, before they “interpret” it, for the rest of us dummies.

I’m afraid you’ve lost me on the rest of your idea.-Glenn

[William Terrell]

The dragon is usually Satan.

No, the dragon is a symbol for Satan. Just as the woman is a symbol for giving birth to an idea or nation or whatever. Making the woman the real Mary is just too easy, and too selfserving.