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To: annalex

I am not going to argue against anything you say, nor agree to anything. I am just going to state a perception and a feeling: Do you hate Jews and/or Judaism? If you don’t, edit your piece a little, because that is what I got from it.


499 posted on 07/25/2007 11:57:31 AM PDT by republican4ever (Israel's fate determines the fate of the world, whether we believe and like it or not.)
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To: republican4ever
I did not write the article, but where do you suggest it indicates hatred of Jews or Judaism? In fact the author agrees with the premise that anti-Jewish passion is wrong:
For instance, he once told me that he was passionately anti-Catholic. I responded “Really? So if I were Jewish would it be okay for you to tell me that you are passionately anti-Jew?” He was taken aback and responded “Of course not!” I then responded “I guess some hatred is acceptable while others is not”.

501 posted on 07/25/2007 12:04:12 PM PDT by annalex
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To: republican4ever
I’m going to pop in here. The OP can back me up or shoot me down.

This article was not about hating Jewish people. It was about the Non-Catholics who would have no problem debating Catholic doctrine and practices but be horrified that anyone would do the same to Jewish doctrine and practices.

I have used this argument many a time on threads. I have asked someone who has come onto a thread only to spread “myths” about what Catholics do, would they do the same on one of Alouette or Sjackson’s threads. I’m on their ping lists and would be equally offended if that person were to go on there and be this crass.

When we are told by a Christian that we are practicing idolatry, it is kind of like (although not as horrible) a Palestinian stating that Jewish people are pigs and monkeys. They are saying we are pagans.

So please don’t take offense to the Jewish reference. Trust me, if someone were to do this kind of thing to any of my Jewish friends, I would be there with a smackdown personally. No one touches the chosen people in my book.

506 posted on 07/25/2007 12:14:52 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: republican4ever
I hope this won't sound nit-picky, but I want to point out that neither a question, a recommendation, or an assessment is a feeling as such.

I'd wager that you had a complex of feelings which led you to consider yourself (vicariously - if you're not Jewish) attacked. And then you felt (a little?) angry.

But that's all just me guessing. What I get from your post is that you think the post is anti-semitic and you think either the anti-semitism should be, as they say, "owned" or denied - and, if it's denied, then the post should be edited.

Since annalex didn't write the post (did he?) I think it would be wrong for him to edit it. If it IS in part indeed anti-semitic, maybe he could explain that those parts don't reflect his views.

And here you could help because you could point out what parts you think might be anti-semitic.

I think feelings can be based on faulty perceptions, so they don't always make good guides for decision making. It makes me feel bad to pass up a second helping of macaroni and cheese. Seriously, I get a tad depressed! But that's no reason NOT to pass it up. I probably ought to pass up the first helping as well, come to think of it. Now I'm really sad!

And sometimes, when my performance or my behavior is being justly criticized, I get to feeling hurt, afraid, ashamed, and then angry or defensive (or both). But the criticism might be not only just but good for me. It's not good mental hygiene to make the feeling go away, I think, but it's not good mental hygiene to believe the propositions those feelings prompt me to make.

That's how it looks to me.

So what do you THINK, rather than FEEL, should be reconsidered, and why do you think so, if you care to say ....

510 posted on 07/25/2007 12:33:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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