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Anti-Catholicism, Hypocrisy and Double Standards
ConstantinesRant ^ | Sunday, July 22, 2007 | Constantine

Posted on 07/23/2007 3:36:15 PM PDT by annalex

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To: Frank Sheed

Please do.


141 posted on 07/24/2007 11:24:39 AM PDT by annalex
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To: William Terrell
Christians do not worship a goddess.

Of course not.

Anyone concerned about Christian unity, like you appear to be, should begin by learning what the Catholic Church teaches, and then he will be well on his way to joining the Catholic Church.

142 posted on 07/24/2007 11:28:45 AM PDT by annalex
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To: SaltyJoe
Well said SaltyJoe!

Sin vs. obedience! I like it. Laser to the issue, not our brother and sister Protestants. Why fight the truth. We need to take it to sin, war, injustice, poverty, immorality.
143 posted on 07/24/2007 11:36:49 AM PDT by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: annalex

At the library,Jack Chick pamphlets placed in books concerning Catholicism. Tacky.


144 posted on 07/24/2007 11:36:49 AM PDT by voiceinthewind
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To: DungeonMaster

***I’m sure I’m not worthy to answer. But in the RCC, the priest has all the same roles as a priest had in Israel. It is one of my complaints about RC doctrine but it doesn’t bug me as much as Marianism. There is no priest but Christ for a Christian! After that we are all elevated to the roll of priest.***

What do you think the following verses mean:

“Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:” Matthew 28:20a

“Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.” John 20:22b-23

“And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Mathhew 16:19

How many books on Catholic theology have you read? Have you read the “Catechism of the Catholic Church?” If you haven’t ever read any Catholic books, you are not qualified to answer. This is not about what you THINK the Church teaches, it is about what the Church DOES teach. Truth vs. Falsehood Reality vs. Fiction


145 posted on 07/24/2007 11:36:57 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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To: nanetteclaret

Get over it.


146 posted on 07/24/2007 11:40:01 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Jesus was TALKING TO Moses and Elijah. We TALK TO the saints in heaven. We ASK them to PRAY for us.


147 posted on 07/24/2007 11:40:14 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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To: padre35; DungeonMaster
Why don't you ask a Catholic?

in Catholicism, the priest is the intermediary between Man and God...

The priest is the only one who gives confessions and offers the Eucharist in the person of Christ. "As my father sent Me so I send you", "do this in memory of Me"; "whoever hears you hears Me" were the words of Christ regarding the priesthood.

The Eucharist is the sacrifice of Christ, one and only. It is incorrect to call the priest mediator, as Christ is the mediator. Both the priest and the laity can and are encouraged to pray to Christ, the Holy Ghost or the Father, or pray for the intercession of the saints and Mary, and venerate the saints and Mary.

A priest is not technically necessary for baptisms and marriages, although when one is available these sacraments should be done in a Church by a priest.

St. Paul called his correspondents, living Catholic Christians, saints. In the Age of Martyrs, the word took on a narrower meaning of those who are evidently alive in Heaven with Christ on the account of their martyrdom, and naturally they were prayed to and venerated because of that. Gradually, the word "saint" came to signify a person who the Church in her ability to open and shut the gates of the Kingdom (the "keys" promised St. Peter, the architect of our Church), has formally canonized as saints.

It is nevertheless permissible to ask for intercession of anyone dead and alive, and not necessarily a canonized saint in Heaven.

148 posted on 07/24/2007 11:41:30 AM PDT by annalex
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To: Running On Empty
No matter what, there will always be religious crazies in this world.

Clearly you knew who was right and who was wrong! Trying to argue with people like that isn’t worth the energy. Its useless. They get off on confrontation, it somehow gives them a sense of ‘we are right, otherwise no one would confront us’.

Similar to the ‘God hates fags’ crowd. The only good one can say of them is that they at least aren't using bombs to make their point.

149 posted on 07/24/2007 11:41:33 AM PDT by JRochelle (WalMart's 'Great Value' brand to be renamed, now its the 'Great Wall' brand.)
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To: nanetteclaret
So are you comparing Jesus at the transfiguration with your praying, sorry, talking to Aunt Bessie, the same thing?
150 posted on 07/24/2007 11:42:50 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.)
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To: NEWwoman
wake up and smell the coffee

May the sweet smell of Catholic coffee be with you forever.

151 posted on 07/24/2007 11:43:09 AM PDT by annalex
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To: nanetteclaret

Sola Scriptura-The Bible alone but only when it agrees with my opinion, which is really, really, honestly given to me by the Holy Spirit, I swear. I don’t care what the Holy Spirit told you but I’m right. How could I be wrong when I KNOW I was led by the Holy Spirit.


152 posted on 07/24/2007 11:46:19 AM PDT by tiki
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To: DungeonMaster

Is saying “get over it” the best you can do? I thought we weren’t “supposed to make it personal.”

Thanks for the civilized discussion. NOT


153 posted on 07/24/2007 11:47:05 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Were Elijah and Moses dead or alive when they were with Jesus at the Transfiguration?


154 posted on 07/24/2007 11:49:03 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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To: annalex; padre35

You are perfectly free to believe that there is really a Priesthood that pertains to Christianity. You are perfectly free to invent any doctrine you want about priests and purgatory and Mary. You are free to reference unrelated verses in the Bible to support what you choose to believe and you are free to try to get others to believe what you believe. But for me, if it isn’t in the Bible, I don’t believe it.


155 posted on 07/24/2007 11:53:58 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: DungeonMaster
It makes perfect sense when RC's try to remove the use of the word dead from Christian vocabulary thus nullifying the scripture.

You mean like Jesus did when he rebuked the Sadducees, saying "God is not the God of the dead, but of the living" (Matthew 22:32) ???

156 posted on 07/24/2007 11:55:31 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: DungeonMaster

Do you reject things that are in the Bible?


157 posted on 07/24/2007 11:57:14 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: nanetteclaret

I am following along until the last part, “Saints” meant “believer in Jesus as Christ” not “through a long process the Committee on Sainthood has discovered that Kateri Tekakwitha did perform the necessary miracles to be considered...”

And by way of clarification, Paul set up Churches on his own relationship with Jesus, not through the “keys of peter” which to me is the big split in Christianity.

Meaning Paul preached “Faith through Grace” Peter was a direct line of Apostles, so was Paul “born out of due season”.

Did they preach different Doctrines? Or did they have different methods? and who were the 72 sent out? And why did Jesus say “For whoever is not against you is for you?”


158 posted on 07/24/2007 11:58:10 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: DungeonMaster

***But for me, if it isn’t in the Bible, I don’t believe it***

***You are free to reference unrelated verses in the Bible to support what you choose to believe***

So which is it? If it IS in the Bible, but you don’t like it, then you don’t want to believe it. I think that’s what you meant to say.


159 posted on 07/24/2007 11:58:52 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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To: DungeonMaster
They are in the same state as the dead were which we were told in the OT not to talk to.

Except that we were never told that.

We were told not to conjure up dead people to tell fortunes.

Very good. Don't conjure up dead people, and don't tell fortunes.

Says nothing about "not talking to them". Did Jesus sin at the Transfiguration? ... because Scripture clearly says he discussed his forthcoming passion with Moses and Elijah.

160 posted on 07/24/2007 12:00:02 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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