[Forest Keeper]

Fru: "Scripture is pretty clear on the fact that men can KNOW that they have eternal life (1 John 5:13)."

That means the LDS and JW have eternal life as well; it makes no difference how we know God or what theology (trinitarian or not) we subscribe to. Anything goes, as long as we proclaim Jesus as our Savior we are "saved."

Nah, you are forgetting a key difference between Reformers and at least the Latins, if not the Orthodox as well. We do NOT believe that a mere claim of belief makes one a true believer (if even temporarily). Our side believes that the Bible is clear that there are some who claim belief, but are in fact false believers. Therefore, to even have a chance at being true, any claim would have to be in the CORRECT Jesus, as He is revealed in the Holy Scriptures. This automatically leaves out the LDS and JWs as their sacred texts prove. They believe in some other Jesus, not the one you and I agree on.

[kosta50]

Nah, you are forgetting a key difference between Reformers and at least the Latins, if not the Orthodox as well. We do NOT believe that a mere claim of belief makes one a true believer (if even temporarily). Our side believes that the Bible is clear that there are some who claim belief, but are in fact false believers. Therefore, to even have a chance at being true, any claim would have to be in the CORRECT Jesus, as He is revealed in the Holy Scriptures

They use the same scripture to prove their point, FK. They just concentrate on different verses. Just as Portestants favor +Paul in their disagreement with the Aposotlic Church.