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To: xzins; blue-duncan
It's the sufficient/efficient discussion mixed with modifiers and sentence structure.

Jesus death is sufficient to have saved all because the penalty of all sin was paid for. "If any man sin we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous, and he is the expiation for our sins, and not ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

All, however, don't accept.

Exactly. I am not sure where this elitist attitude comes from, since Christ seems to be open to ALL members of society, even the outcast, even the foreigner, even the sick and humble. But a Calvinist gets his hands on the Sacred Scripture and suddenly, God only cares about Calvinsts...

So much for the walls that Christ came to tear down. Calvin would have them re-built...

Regards

9,349 posted on 10/18/2007 9:55:10 AM PDT by jo kus
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To: jo kus; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg

Some are going to be lost. God knows that. There is nothing that will change that. Those things are set in stone.

However, the price paid would be sufficient for all sin. Therefore, none can say that they did not have an opportunity. Their free will resisted, and they rejected their only salvation.

As one old freeper used to suggest, if someone buys your family a ticket to Hawaii, and all use it except you, then that doesn’t mean the price was not paid.


9,353 posted on 10/18/2007 10:07:46 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: jo kus; xzins
But a Calvinist gets his hands on the Sacred Scripture and suddenly, God only cares about Calvinsts...

So much for the walls that Christ came to tear down. Calvin would have them re-built...

What an incredibly ignorant and inaccurate statement! I know of no Calvinists who claim that God only cares about Calvinists. The question is not and has never been about the scope of the Gospel call. The question has always been who will respond how, and why.

I know of no Calvinists who believes the Gospel should be withheld from ANY person, regardless of ethnicity, color, economic status or any other criteria. That is a spurious claim.

9,418 posted on 10/19/2007 8:56:52 AM PDT by Frumanchu (Dr. D. James Kennedy: Calvinist in life; Calvinist in Glory)
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