“God gives man potential to all men to be saved. God DIED for EVERYONE. Is that clear?”
Someone needs to tell that to Jesus:
John 17:10, “For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.”
If He is not praying for the world then how can there be His intercession for the world?
If He is not praying for the world then how can there be His intercession for the world?
Unfortunatly, you are ignore the rest of the Bible and see a verse that comes close to your philosphical view without looking at it and reading the context. Before you form a philosophical opinion, you should first analyze the context and keep in mind what the REST of Scriptures say. Let us do that below. First, the context:
I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received [them], and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are]. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. John 17:6-12
Clearly, Jesus is not making a distinction between the "saved" and the "reprobate" here. He is talking about HIS DISCIPLES. Jesus is speaking about His apostles, praying to the Father that they may persevere and faithfully teach what Jesus taught them. This has nothing to do with "condemning" the rest of the world. His prays of the moment are centered on the Apostles, not the world.
Let's look at another example of Jesus' prayer. Does this mean that Christ didn't care about the other apostles???
And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired [to have] you, that he may sift [you] as wheat:But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. Luke 22:31-32
According to your logic, this means that Christ IS ONLY CONCERNED WITH PETER'S FAITH... No one else. He prays for Peter, no one else, thus, He doesn't care about anyone else...
No, in your quote above, Jesus is specifically praying for the apostles, but it doesn't follow that He is NOT going to die for the world... It is a specific prayer - "that they may be one". He is not refering to ALL of mankind!
Also, John, the writer of your quote, wrote:
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 1:29
God's Word does not contradict. In context, your verse does not say what you think it says.
Regards
It's the sufficient/efficient discussion mixed with modifiers and sentence structure.
Jesus death is sufficient to have saved all because the penalty of all sin was paid for. "If any man sin we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous, and he is the expiation for our sins, and not ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
All, however, don't accept.