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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Dr. E,

An interesting post regarding Luther and Catholic apologists. I do not disagree with his theme. However, I would posit that Protestants do the exact same thing with Catholic authors, the Catechism, and the Church Fathers, wouldn't you agree?

To be honest, I think the author is not far from the truth. Most Catholics do not have the interest or the time to "thoroughly" read Luther or Calvin. We already have a huge list of things "to read"! It would be too much to ask us to read 50 volumes of the changing positions of whom we consider a heretic. Ask any Catholic here! I rely on other people on such subjects. To be perfectly frank, Luther was not very consistent. Thus, Catholics and Protestants could quote Luther against Luther on a variety of subjects. Thus, who is the "true Luther" is often beyond us amateurs.

I find the post interesting - and I hope you are able to see that it applies to Protestant apologists as well. I see many here attempt the very same thing with the Fathers. They take one sentence from St. Irenaeus and think that he teaches sola scriptura. ANYONE who has read more than a paragraph of Irenaeus will find this to be an absurd conclusion. Thus, we can apply the same criticisms to both camps, I believe.

Regards

9,329 posted on 10/18/2007 5:14:03 AM PDT by jo kus
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To: jo kus; Dr. Eckleburg
I find the post interesting - and I hope you are able to see that it applies to Protestant apologists as well. I see many here attempt the very same thing with the Fathers. They take one sentence from St. Irenaeus and think that he teaches sola scriptura. ANYONE who has read more than a paragraph of Irenaeus will find this to be an absurd conclusion. Thus, we can apply the same criticisms to both camps, I believe.

You have an excellent point. "Apologists" of all stripes pick and choose what they want to use as their "proof".

On the other hand many of the arguments of Augustine, among other "Church Fathers" for instance would lead one to believe he would be accused of being a "Sola Scripture" proponent by a reasonable definition of Sola Scriptura rather than one concocted by those who wish to attack the idea.

I have read much, far from all, of the works of Augustine and cannot find a single instance where he says "Tradition", The Church", or anything else trumps Scripture. Can you?

9,359 posted on 10/18/2007 10:51:20 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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