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To: kawaii; Lord_Calvinus; blue-duncan; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; wmfights; irishtenor
Um can you tell me where it says in the eucharist we’re making a sacrifice to Christ?!??!

Gladly, although as stated, it is purportedly a sacrifice "of Christ" (yet since Christ is God I suppose it could be seen as "to Christ," too. Who knows?

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" By definition a priest is one who offers sacrifice. The Catholic Church teaches that the Mass is a sacrifice..."

Since the mass is predicated on error, who knows where these tortuous mistakes will take us and what utter confusion results from them?

Does the EO believe in the perpetual sacrifice of Christ is the mass (contrary to Hebrews 10)?

8,329 posted on 10/05/2007 12:35:23 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Why do protestants repeatedly spout off about things they don’t know and then invent things which don’t exist? No one says that a priest makes a sacrifice to Christ. Now granted the use of the word purportedly is important when discussing religion, for instance protestants purportedly care about scripture yet it is empiracly verifiable they have simply distorted it, but that’s quite different from when protestants make up things (like priests offering sacrifices) by projecting their invnted verbology onto the actual...

Eucharist as a sacrifice

The Orthodox Church believes the Eucharist to be a sacrifice. As is heard in the Liturgy, “Thine of Thine own we offer to Thee, in all and for all.”
At the Eucharist, the sacrifice offered is Christ himself, and it is Christ himself who in the Church performs the act of offering: He is both priest and victim.
We offer to Thee. The Eucharist is offered to God the Trinity — not just to the Father but also to the Holy Spirit and to Christ Himself. So, what is the sacrifice of the Eucharist? By whom is it offered? and to whom is it offered? In each case the answer is Christ.
We offer for all: according to Orthodox theology, the Eucharist is a propitiatory sacrifice, offered on behalf of both the living and the dead.
The Church teaches that the sacrifice is not a mere figure or symbol but a true sacrifice. It is not the bread that is sacrificed, but the very Body of Christ. And, the Lamb of God was sacrificed only once, for all time. The sacrifice at the Eucharist consists, not in the real and bloody immolation of the Lamb, but in the transformation of the bread into the sacrificed Lamb.
All the events of Christ’s sacrifice, the Incarnation, the Last Supper, the Crucifixion, the Resurrection, and the Ascension are not repeated in the Eucharist, but they are made present.
[edit]Real, symbolic, or mystical

The Eucharist is both symbolic and mystical. Also, the Eucharist in the Orthodox Church is understood to be the genuine Body and Blood of Christ, precisely because bread and wine are the mysteries and symbols of God’s true and genuine presence and his manifestation to us in Christ.
The mystery of the Holy Eucharist defies analysis and explanation in purely rational and logical terms. For the Eucharist, as Christ himself, is a mystery of the Kingdom of Heaven which, as Jesus has told us, is “not of this world.” The Eucharist, because it belongs to God’s Kingdom, is truly free from the earth-born “logic” of fallen humanity.
From John of Damascus: “If you enquire how this happens, it is enough for you to learn that it is through the Holy Spirit ... we know nothing more than this, that the word of God is true, active, and omnipotent, but in its manner of operation unsearchable”.

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8,330 posted on 10/05/2007 12:48:29 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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