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To: kosta50; HarleyD; MarkBsnr; D-fendr

Kosta: so the only conclusion one can come up with is that God specifically created some angels to be discarded for no reason whatsoever! Absurd.

HD: Well, that's what happened. Pretty much like why God planted the tree in the Garden.

That IS what happened. And to your comment as it would apply to humans, I don't see the difference between predestining one to hell and creating one already knowing that he will use his free will to choose against God. In both cases, the person's destiny is set in stone within God's foreknowledge BEFORE the act of creation, yet God went ahead anyway.

8,326 posted on 10/05/2007 8:14:12 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)

To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; HarleyD; MarkBsnr

I don't see the difference between predestining one to hell and creating one already knowing that he will use his free will to choose against God.

Look at the difference in terms of what each says about the creator.

And ask yourself: Is a human being really human without free will?

8,327 posted on 10/05/2007 10:59:16 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)

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