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To: MarkBsnr; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; suzyjaruki; xzins; blue-duncan; irishtenor; Forest Keeper
whether or not you believed that God programs people to like where they wind up.

All men are fallen and none seeks God unless and until God first regenerates his heart and renews his mind to the truth of Christ risen.

Obviously, since most of us believe hell is not uninhabitied, God does not cover every man with Christ's atonement or else all men would be judged innocent of their sins and everyone would end up in heaven.

While on earth, the reprobate loves his sin.

"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved." -- John 3:19-20

After he's dead, I doubt he's very happy.

"Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?" -- Malachi 2:17

7,881 posted on 10/01/2007 2:29:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD

The intimation seemed to be that the Reformed thought that God programmed people to like where they wound up. A possible offshoot of the idea that people are initially programmed to hell because they are attracted to it; then the Holy Spirit hops into the scene and reprograms the individual to now be attracted to God.

I was just looking to expand on that idea; was that idea a personal musing or fully Calvinist? I was also curious about any Scriptural support for that idea.


7,886 posted on 10/01/2007 3:11:18 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; 1000 silverlings; suzyjaruki; xzins; blue-duncan; irishtenor; ...
Mark-whether or not you believed that God programs people to like where they wind up.

Dr. E-All men are fallen and none seeks God unless and until God first regenerates his heart and renews his mind to the truth of Christ risen.

Amen! Without a new heart, men will never on their own accord seek after the things of righteousness. It's not a "program" thingy. We aren't trained to do bad things. It's our nature.

7,901 posted on 10/01/2007 4:25:11 PM PDT by HarleyD
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