“You appear to have a little flock being led by shepherds who claim infallibility and led by the HS, but they seem to be at a loss when it comes to understanding the scriptures, especially John. Im sure its a nice safe little flock but its not the only one.”
Well, actually its the second largest Christian flock(after the Latins). As for it being one of many flocks, well of course you are correct. That’s sort of my point, 1000. We believe very, very different things about “salvation”. Eastern Christians have read John 3 and the rest of Scripture for the past 2000 years and understand one thing, Western Protestants read the same thing, or translations of varying degrees of acuracy of the same thing, and come up with a very different understanding. When the differences in understanding are on a point so basic as salvation, it makes theological discussion pretty much fruitless. Indeed, this and other differences on basic theology explain why beyond discussions between Rome and Orthodoxy and perhaps with some conservative Anglicans and Lutherans, ecumenical talk about reunion of The Church with separated Christians is just a silly waste of time.
Lol, yes, then how does one in your church ever grow spiritually, grow in the grace and wisdom of Christ Jesus? Perhaps that is why you can't know anything about spiritual growth until your dead? Aren't you people spiritually alive?
Numbers 11 is a good example, where you have the 70 meeting the HS in the "proper" place, yet that old HS He's over someplace else working away. A couple of the 70 were a bit put out by it, wanted to kill them.