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To: Forest Keeper

That is a fascinating couple of statements.

“If you, F-K have the indwelling knowledge that you are of the elect and you are going to get to Heaven and there’s nothing that anyone can do about it, what if you don’t go and evangelize? What if you don’t do as you are commanded?

Then either God will right my ship to show me the error of my ways (discipline, conscience, etc.), or He will take me home before I lose my salvation. “

Are you saying that if you stop performing as God wants you to, and you resist any of His pressures to do so, then you’ll be taken up to Heaven with Him forever? Wow. Since Heaven is infinitely better than having a Democratic Congress and Senate, then isn’t that a very good reason to stop going about the Lord’s business?

“While I of course still sin from time to time, I am not “in a state of sin”.”

What happens to that sin that is committed from time to time? Is it of any consequence, or no?


5,798 posted on 09/10/2007 6:19:12 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg
Are you saying that if you stop performing as God wants you to, and you resist any of His pressures to do so, then you’ll be taken up to Heaven with Him forever?

Yes, that is one option that happens. If my time on earth is finished He will take me home. If God still has use of me on earth, then the other option is that God causes me to change my ways and come back to Him.

Since Heaven is infinitely better than having a Democratic Congress and Senate, then isn’t that a very good reason to stop going about the Lord’s business?

The scriptures don't give us that option. It is for God to number our days, and there is nothing we can intentionally do to thwart that using this reasoning. For example, if it was my plan to not serve God in hopes that He would take me home earlier, then that would be strong evidence that I really didn't believe in the first place. The truly changed heart doesn't work like that.

What happens to that sin that is committed from time to time? Is it of any consequence, or no?

It is of no consequence to my salvation, but it is certainly going to affect me here. When I sin I am obviously rejecting God. There will be consequences for this. There will be earthly punishment and discipline, and I will likely be hurting someone else, and certainly myself. Repentance and confession can certainly mitigate this. The closer I stay to God the more fulfilled my life will be here on earth. In addition, whatever "rewards in Heaven" means will be affected by the level of sin on earth by believers.

5,845 posted on 09/11/2007 1:33:46 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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