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To: MarkBsnr
It is interesting that some will display the verses that say that the reward for belief is Heaven. Others will display the verses that say that the elect only will get to Heaven. Others will display the verses that say that Jesus came for all men. Does that mean that the elect only have belief and all others disbelieve?

Yes, although the elect spend part of their lives not believing. "Reward" is a magic word for us, so we would say the result of belief is Heaven. Rewards are the result of an independent judgment. ...... Reformers do believe that only the elect will go to Heaven. ...... We would say that Jesus came for all of His elect, but not for all humans. The Father does not give all humans to Jesus, but only some. Therefore He cannot have come for all.

Could this mean that the vast bulk of humanity might be able to get to Heaven?

I wouldn't think so with Biblical phrases like "narrow gate" and "many are called but few are chosen".

5,540 posted on 09/06/2007 1:52:25 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

The context of giving a ‘reward’ is as a result of deserving that reward. But the Reformed will say that nobody deserves Heaven...


5,542 posted on 09/06/2007 2:17:53 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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