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To: blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; irishtenor; Forest Keeper; wmfights; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl; Frumanchu
Where do you find that the “Holy Spirit” gives you understanding about anything?

In the Bible.

It can’t be the scriptures since they are filled with all sorts of additions of men

There is a chance that any verse was added at some time other than by the original author. We have no way of knowing. That is just a reminder that what we believe is not necessarily true. But some people can live in delusions and be perfectly at home.

You have no proof that any verse in the Bible was written by any author claimed, just as you cannot prove that the Holy Spirit does anything just because you believe He does.

Now, if we are going to pretend that a verse is really a true verse (and there is a certain probability attached to that pretense) then we can speak of it as if it were true (and there is a certain probability that it is).

When we do, we see that the verses in question express a universal, but not particular truth, sufficiently general to allow all sorts of interpretations as to what is good or evil. In other words it can mean anything your heart desires.

So, while it expresses the universal truth, in general rather than particular, it by no means assures us that what we know or what we define as "good" is really good. The verse is true provided what we consider good is truly good.

Last time I checked, men have been mistaken.

5,465 posted on 09/05/2007 3:09:56 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; blue-duncan; irishtenor; Forest Keeper; wmfights; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl; Frumanchu; ...
You have no proof that any verse in the Bible was written by any author claimed, just as you cannot prove that the Holy Spirit does anything just because you believe He does.

Now, if we are going to pretend that a verse is really a true verse (and there is a certain probability attached to that pretense) then we can speak of it as if it were true (and there is a certain probability that it is).

When we do, we see that the verses in question express a universal, but not particular truth, sufficiently general to allow all sorts of interpretations as to what is good or evil. In other words it can mean anything your heart desires.

So, while it expresses the universal truth, in general rather than particular, it by no means assures us that what we know or what we define as "good" is really good. The verse is true provided what we consider good is truly good.

1) On what basis do you decide what is "truly good?"

2) Are you actually saying the Bible only speaks in generalities and not specifics? You don't think the 10 Commandments are specific? You don't think "if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved" (Romans 10:9) is specific?

Maybe that's why the EO as you present it seems so inarticulate. Nothing is firm or real or definite or determined; everything's a generality, in flux, uncertain and ill-defined.

5,502 posted on 09/05/2007 10:27:42 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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